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What do I need to know to decide which model to buy? I have a lead on a cheap

MSPNP2-EEC4A8​

 

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@a91what can probably answer this question best.
 

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It is a batch fire model that is wired to use an onboard map sensor, the tune will be done in speed density vs MAF. It has the AC controls wired in and has other nice features such as fan control boost control ect.
You will need to purchase Tuner Studio MS or Ultra to make life easy. It does not have a built in wideband, I suggest either a spartan2 or an AEM x series.
 

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a91what said:
It is a batch fire model that is wired to use an onboard map sensor, the tune will be done in speed density vs MAF. It has the AC controls wired in and has other nice features such as fan control boost control ect.
You will need to purchase Tuner Studio MS or Ultra to make life easy. It does not have a built in wideband, I suggest either a spartan2 or an AEM x series.
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I was looking at ordering the MTX-L wideband that comes in the ‘Tuner Kit’ by MegaSquirt, thoughts? Secondly, is Tuner Studio MS Lite enough, just curious. And lastly… you have to tune via Speed Density???… I missed that bit of info when researching my options

EDIT… what do you mean batch fire model?
 

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Andrews24 said:
I was looking at ordering the MTX-L wideband that comes in the ‘Tuner Kit’ by MegaSquirt, thoughts? Secondly, is Tuner Studio MS Lite enough, just curious. And lastly… you have to tune via Speed Density???… I missed that bit of info when researching my options

EDIT… what do you mean batch fire model?
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Batch fire as in not sequential injection. It only has 2 injector drivers each controlling 4 injectors.

Speed density is a fine algorithm, in fact almost all of your modern day production vehicles use speed density. You can tune it in Alpha-N [throttle based] or MAF if you choose to do so, you just have to wire that sensor in.
Lite is not enough, I require all remote tuning customers to have at least the registered version of the software. I dont like to waste time

The MTXL works fine just not my first choice
 
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a91what said:
Batch fire as in not sequential injection. It only has 2 injector drivers each controlling 4 injectors.

Speed density is a fine algorithm, in fact almost all of your modern day production vehicles use speed density. You can tune it in Alpha-N [throttle based] or MAF if you choose to do so, you just have to wire that sensor in.
Lite is not enough, I require all remote tuning customers to have at least the registered version of the software. I dont like to waste time

The MTXL works fine just not my first choice
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Thank you for your time, and help… I will do what you suggest, as I want to learn how to do it and at the same time lean on you - and it wouldn’t be fair/the correct thing to do things a different way than you suggest, and then me come to you and ask why it isn’t working lol.

I did purchase the MegaSquirt2 today, knew I needed to add a wideband so will add that, and I’ll purchase the full version of Tuner Studio.

thank you for taking the time to reach out, I really appreciate it. Tuning is new to me but I’ve always wanted to tackle it… so if you don’t mind me leaning on you and reaching out I’d really appreciate it… there is so much to learn and it can be overwhelming - but I’m looking forward to it and excited

any you suggest or recommend when getting started?
 

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Look around in the tuning forum, I have many links in my signature
 

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a91what said:
Look around in the tuning forum, I have many links in my signature
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ok. i should have asked, which ‘model’ do you suggest? One of the pimpx or MegaSquirts? I clearly hadn’t done enough research and seeing you say how the MS2 uses batch fire instead of sequential has me wondering. I don’t wanna start a project with an ECU system I got cheaper vs one that is easiest to work with/best for me
 

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The pimpxs is by far a better ecu. It's ms3 based and full sequential
 

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All the ones I build are ms3. I still do MS from time to time but have moved to the Holley Dominator on some of my bigger builds. I have an ms3 on one of my Coyote swapped cars.
 

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I have mspnp2. Sometimes I still feel like I'm leaving something on the table. The ms3 based stuff can do way more. Ms2 is decent but ms3 has way more options.
 

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I have an MS2PNP in my stock build and it runs fantastic. There isn't anything wrong with MS2, but the MS3 is the most current along with better features/options with it. If you are putting the MS2 (MS2PNP) and MS3 (PIMPXS) side-by-side then I would choose the MS3 everytime.
 
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I have an MS2PNP in my stock build and it runs fantastic. There isn't anything wrong with MS2, but the MS3 is the most current along with better features/options with it. If you are putting the MS2 (MS2PNP) and MS3 (PIMPXS) side-by-side then I would choose the MS3 everytime.
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I think we have the same rims...

Honestly, Ive always wanted to get into tuning - and basically just solve this cold start idle issue (car has no issue when warm)

View: https://youtu.be/aP2A4Z3bPq8
 

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I had a seem issue with my stock black mustang and the MS cleaned it right up. I always thought it was something wrong with the ECU. Having the MS leaves a lot of room to grow with abilities to connect other things to it as well.
 

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Andrews24 said:
Thank you for your time, and help… I will do what you suggest, as I want to learn how to do it and at the same time lean on you - and it wouldn’t be fair/the correct thing to do things a different way than you suggest, and then me come to you and ask why it isn’t working lol.

I did purchase the MegaSquirt2 today, knew I needed to add a wideband so will add that, and I’ll purchase the full version of Tuner Studio.

thank you for taking the time to reach out, I really appreciate it. Tuning is new to me but I’ve always wanted to tackle it… so if you don’t mind me leaning on you and reaching out I’d really appreciate it… there is so much to learn and it can be overwhelming - but I’m looking forward to it and excited

any you suggest or recommend when getting started?
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I would honestly return the ms2 and get the pimpxs

PiMPxs Standalone Engine Management (Sequential EFI)

PiMPxs Standalone Engine Management
www.stinger-performance.com

After playing around with microsquirts and the pnp stuff, the pimpxs is far better for the money.
 
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