Low Cost Mods...

fobra559 · Dec 28, 2007

AznStanger3v said:
cost, emissions, insurance, time... just to name a few.

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mikes06gt · Dec 28, 2007

i have a cai,tuner and cmcv deletes that i am getting rid of...they are brand new...pm me if you are interested

Humboldt Stang · Dec 28, 2007

As said before, get a CAI and tuner.
Then put in some gears to really feel that power gain.
Most go with 4.10's for manual, 3.73's for auto.
But others go steeper.

Gene K · Dec 28, 2007

xxrequiemxx said:
Does the tuner have any negative effect on the car?

Defiantely! (Im afraid Im going to get arrested!)

MaxDestruction · Dec 28, 2007

How about for a nice bang for the buck:
1) 4.10s
2) Cold Air Box
3) Underdrive Pullies
4) Tuner
5) Aluminum Driveshaft

Comments?

fobra559 · Dec 28, 2007

MaxDestruction said:
How about for a nice bang for the buck:
1) 4.10s
2) Cold Air Box
3) Underdrive Pullies
4) Tuner
5) Aluminum Driveshaft

Comments?

All are great mods. 4.10's are will wake your car up a lot. CAI, pulleys and tune will make some good combined power. The DS, all I can say is it's a great mod, but it costs a lot for the S197's, that's the only downfall

killermach1 · Dec 29, 2007

MaxDestruction said:
So the Ford Racing cold air box comes with the tuner? It states 40HP increase, maybe generous but that is not bad for $800 bucks. Anyone have done this mod yet?

I was thinking nitrous also, since the superchargers are like $5K.

Dude if you get 40 hp from the FRPP intake and tuner Ill shave my head. Ford does not quote 40 hp for their intake heck they quote 20 hp for the whole power pack. and that is bad for $800 you can get a JLT intake and SCT tuner for $550 from Brenspeed or Bama 20-25 hp is a fair increase to expect from a good CAI (JLT or C&L) and a tune. Another benefit of the tuner is unlike fords it will allow you to tune for future mods, and brenspeed and Bama both will give you new tunes for mods you buy from them.

MaxDestruction · Dec 29, 2007

Anyone have any good numbers or estimates on HP gains from the following:

1) 4.10s
2) Cold Air Box
3) Underdrive Pullies
4) Tuner
5) Aluminum Driveshaft

kooldawg6 · Dec 29, 2007

MaxDestruction said:
Anyone have any good numbers or estimates on HP gains from the following:

1) 4.10s
2) Cold Air Box
3) Underdrive Pullies
4) Tuner
5) Aluminum Driveshaft

I don't have the DS, but plan on getting the UDPs in January. Then having it dyno tuned with #1-4 + O/R H.
I'm just guessing, but #2-4 could net 40-50 RWHP. DS and 4.10s shouldn't add power, but will free up rotational mass(give you back HP lost)and get you in the powerband quicker.

kooldawg6 · Dec 29, 2007

fobra559 said:
All are great mods. 4.10's are will wake your car up a lot. CAI, pulleys and tune will make some good combined power. The DS, all I can say is it's a great mod, but it costs a lot for the S197's, that's the only downfall

Those mods could run you about $1700-2000(I included $500+/- for gears+install and $200+/- install for DS). IMO, not bad to go from stock to a very streetable possible N/A high 12 second car. Add stickies and that could drop by another couple tenths to the mid 12s

fobra559 · Dec 29, 2007

kooldawg6 said:
Those mods could run you about $1700-2000(I included $500+/- for gears+install and $200+/- install for DS). IMO, not bad to go from stock to a very streetable possible N/A high 12 second car. Add stickies and that could drop by another couple tenths to the mid 12s

Yeah, my buddy has a 07 and he wants to get gears, tuner and a driveshaft. The driveshaft is a killer on price though on the S197's. Your cars don't take that much to crack the 12's mark and some stickies will get the job done

MaxDestruction · Dec 29, 2007

Thanks guys so far for the info...

1) On the Tuner, suggestion on manufacturer?
2) Cold Air Box, suggestion on manufacturer?

Any other mods besides supercharger (too much), exhaust (I heard stock is good), no heads or cam.

fobra559 · Dec 29, 2007

MaxDestruction said:
Thanks guys so far for the info...

1) On the Tuner, suggestion on manufacturer?
2) Cold Air Box, suggestion on manufacturer?

Any other mods besides supercharger (too much), exhaust (I heard stock is good), no heads or cam.

JLT kit that comes with the SCT tuner, seems to be popular with the S197 owners.

Gene K · Dec 30, 2007

kooldawg6 said:
Those mods could run you about $1700-2000(I included $500+/- for gears+install and $200+/- install for DS). IMO, not bad to go from stock to a very streetable possible N/A high 12 second car. Add stickies and that could drop by another couple tenths to the mid 12s

$525 will get you 12's
CAI + Good Mail Order Tune
See Sig

utrocketman · Dec 30, 2007

I have been following this thread for awhile. I have a question, What is meant by CMCV Deletes?

fobra559 · Dec 30, 2007

utrocketman said:
I have been following this thread for awhile. I have a question, What is meant by CMCV Deletes?

It means "charge motion control valve" Its a set of butterfly valves one on each cylinder. They restrict air flow for fuel economy.

jack1.1 · Jan 3, 2008

lot of bench racing here.

A cold air box and a custom tune are good for 10 -20 hp. I have a k&n box which does not require a tune, k&n claims 15 hp, but that is probably streching it. I have not had my car dyno'd but the box is probably only worth half that in my opinion.
You really don't know unless you dyno your car.

As for charge motion plates, do your research. These are for cars operating in the extreme end of the rpm range, (like 5000+ rpm's). So if you are drag racing your car all the time this may be a good thing. For the street, you don't need. Same with coil packs if you have a n/a car.

There are tons of stuff out there for the mustang and everyone has an opinion. Me like others have spent way too much money on stuff that offers little or no gain. So do your homework, chances are you'll find only a few goodies really amount to much for a street driven car. The tune is a good one though.

Jack

anticubicle · Jan 3, 2008

Intake + Tune should be #1 followed by gears and some sticky tires.

The best cheap mod you can do is called the driver mod

blacksheep06 · Jan 4, 2008

MaxDestruction said:
How about for a nice bang for the buck:
1) 4.10s
2) Cold Air Box
3) Underdrive Pullies
4) Tuner
5) Aluminum Driveshaft

Comments?

Those are all the best bang for the buck mods for the s197 but I would do the tuner/CAI package first so you can then adjust the computer for the gears or exhaust mods if you do them.

justintx75 · Jan 6, 2008

i think the fun mods are the exhaust (slp l-m) and pro 5.0 shifter plus my girl loves to drive the car. they dont require a tune and you can do it in a few hours in the drive way. I am looking to tune the car when the warrenty runs out, gears are out of the question being the car is driven a 100 miles a day to work and i like running a 100+ on the interstate when traveling

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