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Can the map sensor effect idle??
 

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leathernotch said:
Can the map sensor effect idle??
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Yes.

Code 22 MAP (vacuum) or BARO signal out of range. The MAP or BARO sensor is pretty much the same sensor for both Mass Air & Speed Density cars. The main difference is where it is connected. Mass Air cars vent it to the atmosphere, while Speed Density cars connect it to the intake manifold vacuum. Its purpose is to help set a baseline for the air/fuel mixture by sensing changes in barometric pressure. The MAP or BAP sensor puts out a 5 volt square wave that changes frequency with variations in atmospheric pressure. The base is 154 HZ at 29.92" of mercury - dry sunny day at sea level, about 68-72 degrees. You need an oscilloscope or frequency meter to measure it. There is no way you can use a common cheap voltmeter or DVM to accurately measure the output signal.

The MAP/BARO sensor is mounted on the firewall behind the upper manifold.

Baro or MAP test using frequency meter - run the test key on engine off. The noise from the ignition system will likely upset the frequency meter. I used a 10 x oscilloscope probe connected from the frequency meter to the MAP/BAP to reduce the jitter in the meter's readout.

If it is defective, your air/fuel ratio will be off and the car’s performance & emissions will suffer

Some basic checks you can make to be sure that the sensor is getting power & ground:
Note that all resistance tests must be done with power off. Measuring resistance with a circuit powered on will give false readings and possibly damage the meter.
Check the resistance between the black/white wire on the MAP/BARO sensor and then the black/white wire on the EGR and the same wire on the TPS. It should be less than 1 ohm. Next check the resistance between the black/white wire and the negative battery cable. It should be less than 1.5 ohm.

The following power on check requires you to turn the ignition switch to the Run position.
Use a DVM to check for 5 volts on the orange/white wire. If it is missing, look for +5 volts at the orange/white wire on the TPS or EGR sensors. Use the black/white wire for the ground for the DVM.
 
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The car (an 86 capri) when we had the vacuum line off the map sensor the car idle under 1000k and we could set mechanical idle but the idle goes up to 14-18k with the vacuum line connected. But the car runs smoother. I will check w/ the dvm when I get home. But can you see any reason for it to do this?
 

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Speed Density cars like the 86-88 Mustang require the vacuum line from the manifold to be connected to the MAP sensor for proper operation.
 

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A disconnected MAP sensor will make the car run eye-watteringly pig rich at idle.

How is your vac reading at idle? It should be close to 20".

Good luck.
 
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that motor is really turning some rpms. Idles at 1,000,000rpm(1000k) and go up to (actually down) to 14,000to 18,000rpm(14-18k)

Is that a gas turbine of some sort?




















Just had to give ya a hard time. No offense meant.
 
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