"mickey Mouse" power steering delete.

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 27, 2004

Is There any way to remove the power steering pump and lines while pluging the holes? If i remember correctly i read somewhere that it could be done. Has anyone done this, know of anyone thats done it? of course I would use the stock steering rack but it wouldnt have any pressurised power steering fluid running through it. thanks in advance.

By the way i've already deleted the AC system, so i will only be running the crank, waterpump, and alternator if and after i remove the power steering pump

mr_woodster · Dec 27, 2004

keep in mind it will be a beast to drive without a manual rack. Not sure on closing off the pump, dont sound like to smart an idea.

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 27, 2004

mr_woodster said:
keep in mind it will be a beast to drive without a manual rack. Not sure on closing off the pump, dont sound like to smart an idea.

dont mind, '95 GT is my daily driver

04sleeper · Dec 27, 2004

You can do it this way but if you plug the lines off then it will be harder to turn because the fluid can't escape.

I know some people who have taken the pump off and took the 2 lines and connected them together with a jumper hose. That way the rack still has fliud but just transfers the fluid from one side to the other. It is easier to turn then just plugging them off.

A manual rack would be a better choice but if money is an issue then it could work for you.

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 27, 2004

89sleeper said:
You can do it this way but if you plug the lines off then it will be harder to turn because the fluid can't escape.

I know some people who have taken the pump off and took the 2 lines and connected them together with a jumper hose. That way the rack still has fliud but just transfers the fluid from one side to the other. It is easier to turn then just plugging them off.

A manual rack would be a better choice but if money is an issue then it could work for you.

thanks, and yeah money is an issue, but if i can get a couple more HP(by having less parasitic loss) and remove some weight off the front i can live with that so i'm assuming the jumper hose doesnt need to have a high preassure rating to do the job since there wont be any "significant" preassure though the system? would a rubber hose do with clams at both ends?

04sleeper · Dec 27, 2004

MarSaleenMustan said:
thanks, and yeah money is an issue, but if i can get a couple more HP(by having less parasitic loss) and remove some weight off the front i can live with that so i'm assuming the jumper hose doesnt need to have a high preassure rating to do the job since there wont be any "significant" preassure though the system? would a rubber hose do with clams at both ends?

Yes a regular rubber hose with clamps should work just fine.

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 27, 2004

89sleeper said:
Yes a regular rubber hose with clamps should work just fine.

Thanks a lot. Should be a fun project... for tomorrow.

92notch50 · Dec 27, 2004

I heard that when you pull the power steering off the rack that it weakens the rack and you will eventually put more wear on it than it is made for. So you will eventually have to convert it to a manual rack but for a while it should be cool

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 28, 2004

92notch50 said:
I heard that when you pull the power steering off the rack that it weakens the rack and you will eventually put more wear on it than it is made for. So you will eventually have to convert it to a manual rack but for a while it should be cool

right on, Hopefully I have a couple hundred extra for when my engine is out to drop in a tubular K member and the manual rack.I wanna remove as much weight off the front as i can, i'm also gonna relocate the battery to the trunk.

jerry beach · Dec 28, 2004

MarSaleenMustan said:
right on, Hopefully I have a couple hundred extra for when my engine is out to drop in a tubular K member and the manual rack.I wanna remove as much weight off the front as i can, i'm also gonna relocate the battery to the trunk.

If you have a tilt wheel you may want to reconsider this. I have heard there is plastic in there that can break if you turn the wheel without power steering. I dont know how much truth there is to it, but I have read it many times.

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 28, 2004

jerry beach said:
If you have a tilt wheel you may want to reconsider this. I have heard there is plastic in there that can break if you turn the wheel without power steering. I dont know how much truth there is to it, but I have read it many times.

I do have a tilt wheel, anyone know if theres any truth to this?

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 28, 2004

89sleeper said:
Yes a regular rubber hose with clamps should work just fine.

Now where do these lines get cut off?, do i splice the two rubber lines or do i go to the metal ones? how about the hoses going to the radiator?

04sleeper · Dec 28, 2004

MarSaleenMustan said:
Now where do these lines get cut off?, do i splice the two rubber lines or do i go to the metal ones? how about the hoses going to the radiator?

Maybe this will help you. You will not need the lines going in front of the radiator anymore.
View attachment 519008

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 28, 2004

89sleeper said:
Maybe this will help you. You will not need the lines going in front of the radiator anymore.
View attachment 519006

thanks for the pic that helped a lot, but one more question, do i simply plug the holes on the radiator when i remove the hoses?, i'm thnking pluging them with plugs like the radiator drain cocks.

jerry beach · Dec 28, 2004

They go to the pump and cooler in front of the rad, not the rad itself. You should really find out how sturdy that tilt wheel is before doing this. I would retain the PS or get the manual rack. What will you free up, 5 hp?

MarSaleenMustan · Dec 28, 2004

jerry beach said:
They go to the pump and cooler in front of the rad, not the rad itself. You should really find out how sturdy that tilt wheel is before doing this. I would retain the PS or get the manual rack. What will you free up, 5 hp?

well its more so to clean up the engine bay/remove some weight, the 5hp is the bonus.

04sleeper · Dec 28, 2004

MarSaleenMustan said:
thanks for the pic that helped a lot, but one more question, do i simply plug the holes on the radiator when i remove the hoses?, i'm thnking pluging them with plugs like the radiator drain cocks.

There should not be any hoses going into the radiator. Only automatic transmission lines go into the radiator.

There is a hose that goes in front of the radiator that attaches to a small peice of metal line and makes a loop and goes back into the rubber line. This is the factory power steering cooler, a very crude one at that. It was later upgraded in 94 with an actual cooler.

siege · Dec 29, 2004

I've heard that the plastic is only there on the cars with the airbag? Idunno, but I nixed mine maybe 9 months ago and its been alright... The whole tilt mechanism got a little loose though so I could move the wheel up and down/side to side, but that just took tightening of a bolt. I didn't use a jumper hose, I just drained most of the fluid and plugged the hoses with silicone/bolts/sparkplugs/whatever I could find. Frankly, its pretty easy to steer if you've got some muscle - as long as you're rolling...try to turn the wheel without moving...its a little tough. you get used to it quick and now I feel funny driving a car with power steering. just thought I could help a bit...

jb89coupe · Dec 30, 2004

siege said:
I've heard that the plastic is only there on the cars with the airbag? Idunno, but I nixed mine maybe 9 months ago and its been alright... The whole tilt mechanism got a little loose though so I could move the wheel up and down/side to side, but that just took tightening of a bolt. I didn't use a jumper hose, I just drained most of the fluid and plugged the hoses with silicone/bolts/sparkplugs/whatever I could find. Frankly, its pretty easy to steer if you've got some muscle - as long as you're rolling...try to turn the wheel without moving...its a little tough. you get used to it quick and now I feel funny driving a car with power steering. just thought I could help a bit...

Did you notice any performance gains?

siege · Dec 30, 2004

jb89coupe said:
Did you notice any performance gains?

seemed a little more responsive to me. But then again, the mind can fabricate many things

The real difference was the fun to drive factor. The way the steering is without the power is just really enjoyable and is more responsive at higher speeds.

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