UM...six days a week for 15yrs=80 pounds...there may be some holes in your theory. It's really more about the food and the rest you get than anything else.mob said:Does he know working out 4-5 times a week is unhealthy for your muscles, and will result in the muscles NOT growing. Unless hes running the treadmill 4-5 times a week and benching 2 times a week, hes full of shiet.
DMAN302 said:UM...six days a week for 15yrs=80 pounds...there may be some holes in your theory. It's really more about the food and the rest you get than anything else.
DMAN302 said:UM...six days a week for 15yrs=80 pounds...there may be some holes in your theory. It's really more about the food and the rest you get than anything else.
smokin91' said:Not true at all. I work out 5 days a week. Arms/Shoulders/Chest/Back/Legs, each main muscle group once per week.
Now if you are working the same body part out every day then what you said above holds true.
smokin91' said:I dont do 5 days straight. I work out Monday/tuesday, WEDS is rest, then Thurs/Fri, SAT is rest, then sunday.
I dont upp the weights every week, because it takes more then a week to master the weight that your at, if its like you said id be shoulder pressing 200lb dumbells. Once you have been working out for a long time, the gains come slower, not like someone who has never worked out in their life.
Another thing how you put so much emphasis on ALWAYS INCREASING THE WEIGHT. that is a #1 amatuer mistake right there.
ITS NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT, its all about your form. FORM in weightlifting is everything. If you are just trying to beat your MAX bench press, this is pointless. Drop the weight and concentrate more on your form and you will see wayy better results..
Also how you said your muscles take LONGER to recover if you get stronger? Being stronger has nothing to do with recovery time. FOOD and SLEEP however have everything to do with it.
mob said:Im sorry but you will not go up in weights by just having good form. The MOST imporatnt thing in gaining muscle is recovery. Food and sleep are a part of recovery. Good form is VERy important, but so is adding weight. You will not go up in weight if you do not add weight, and then let your body recover.
smokin91' said:To answer your question. YES I ADD WEIGHT, do I do it every week? No I dont go, ohh its been 7 days my body must be ready for more weight.
I add more weight when I get to my 8th rep and I can still bust out more. I use weight that allows me to make it to 8 reps, no more. Plus I keep a log of my workouts so I know what exercise I did and how much weight/reps I did it for.
Also I do not use machines very much. Maybe 1 machine exercise per body part. I belive that free weights give you a better workout becuase you are using more muscles to control the weight.
BTW MOB, how old are you and how long have you been working out for? what are your stats? Any pic you can post to verify that you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk?
mob said:I agree, when I go to the gym, i lift the most my body can. Again I never tried to say next week I will add weight, and if i cant do it my friend will spot me. I only do 3 sets of 8 reps and try to add 5 pounds each set. If you went to the gym with the plan of adding weight just becuase you know next week you will lift more thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard and i promise you I never meant to say that. Al I wanted to say was, IF you can add weight, then you know your growing, if you cannot, then you are overtraining. I am 17 been working out on and off for 3 yrs, and I dont take pics of myself posing for other guys on stangnet
I never said I was the biggest man around, because trust me I am the laziest person, and its a pain in the ass for me to get up and go to the gym after working and going to school all day, and I dont know everything about it, but I know a thing or two about whats imporatnt to lifting weights, and when you are over training. Never said I have enough self motivation to follow them
again as stated safety is paramount...I have an old, sweat stained shirt I wear every so often, it says "train hard or go home"...it's in the zone where your world revolves around pushing yourself harder than you thought you could...maybe than you think you should..but you do it, and the outside world and all it's problems cease to exist until you leave.IMO that's why I go. 99 percent of the time I have no idea what I'm even going to do untill I actually walk into the room...I just like to push myself, cause I know it's 5 am and 95 percent of the world doesn't even bother. I'm not sure what the original post was, and likely I have gotten carried away (as usual) but I just think if you walk in the door you might as well give 100 percent.smokin91' said:Form is overrated until you blow your lower back out doing deadlifts or herniate a disk in your back doing squats.
Form is not important if you like to be one of those dudes in the gym tryin to look cool doing benchpress as the bar gets all crooked and squirrly as you can barely bring it down halfway to your chest or the guy arching the **** ottta his back trying to do barbell curls.
smokin91' said:Im not tryin to fight or start an arguement, to each his own. If what your doing works for you keep it up, I know what I am doing works better then great and I have it down to a science.
DMAN302 said:again as stated safety is paramount...I have an old, sweat stained shirt I wear every so often, it says "train hard or go home"...it's in the zone where your world revolves around pushing yourself harder than you thought you could...maybe than you think you should..but you do it, and the outside world and all it's problems cease to exist until you leave.IMO that's why I go. 99 percent of the time I have no idea what I'm even going to do untill I actually walk into the room...I just like to push myself, cause I know it's 5 am and 95 percent of the world doesn't even bother. I'm not sure what the original post was, and likely I have gotten carried away (as usual) but I just think if you walk in the door you might as well give 100 percent.
mob said:haha thats cool man, but lets just agree that, this kid working out 4-5 days a week isnt doing much for him, especially if he still weighs 115.
mob said:haha thats cool man, but lets just agree that, this kid working out 4-5 days a week isnt doing much for him, especially if he still weighs 115.
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