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Lyncher said:
I cycled creatine for a few weeks. Dont remember exactly what days. Only bad side effects I noticed was gained weight In places I didnt want to, pecks, waist. Like i said I gained 9 pounds in a few weeks, and I was VERY bulky. Only thing about it is that your body has creatine naturally with the things you eat, so it cant really hurt you, but after a week or two anything you noticed with the creatine will be gone. There hasent been that much study on it to see what it does to your heart exactly. If you want to gain weight, id cycle creatine, take weight gainers, and drink protein shakes while eating, and of course working out heavy. I just got the powder from GNC and mixed it with water, some sites say take it with apple juice, others say the acid in juices does something to it, it has no taste so you cant go wrong with water. Dont take creatine for more then a few weeks though.
Hey lyncher i take creatine regularly been taking it for 3 months and i dropped weight when i first started taking it. I take pills like 2 hours before i lift and i take L glutamine 1 hr before lifting and i drink a protein shake for breakfast. After i lost the initial weight when i started taking the creatine i started gaining it back in muscle form.
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RsStanG1987 said:
Usually what I do now is 2 protein shakes a day before and after lifting and basically I eat a lot of stuff with a lot of protein on it and very little fat, like egg beaters, grilled chicken, beans..that sorta thing. Im NOT trying to just gain weight for football where I have to weigh X amount of lbs, I would just like to gain more muscle and get cut and lose the little fat I do have left. So it will help me do that correct? Also could I just mix it in with the protein shake and take it about an hour before I start lifting? Thanks! I also read that the first week you take it you should load 20-30grams a day then after that about 5grams a day and reload every 6 or so weeks. Any opinions on that
Thanks for the responsesAnd thanks Mob for your input as well
I also heard that powder>pills because the coating takes a while to dissolve
Lyncher said:Usually what I do now is 2 protein shakes a day before and after lifting and basically I eat a lot of stuff with a lot of protein on it and very little fat, like egg beaters, grilled chicken, beans..that sorta thing. Im NOT trying to just gain weight for football where I have to weigh X amount of lbs, I would just like to gain more muscle and get cut and lose the little fat I do have left. So it will help me do that correct? Also could I just mix it in with the protein shake and take it about an hour before I start lifting? Thanks! I also read that the first week you take it you should load 20-30grams a day then after that about 5grams a day and reload every 6 or so weeks. Any opinions on that
And thanks Mob for your input as well
I also heard that powder>pills because the coating takes a while to dissolve
You only have to load if you are using creatine MONOHYDRATE, which is pretty much the first creatine invented. Get your some CEE (Creatine Ethyl Ester) It doesnt have to be loaded, you dont need to ingest huge amounts per day and It wont cause the water retention like creatine monhydrate will.
Get youself some NO-Xplode and CELLMASS, they are made by BSN and contain the most advanced creatine on the market (CEM3) Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate.
Oh and stay away from anything by MUSCLETECH. They spend more money on their advertising then they do on their research.
Lyncher said:Are you sure about stuff
Im 110% sure about this stuff. What I posted above and below.
Like I said with the newer types of creatine out you dont LOAD them, they have a better absorbsion rate by your body and you take Alot less of an amount.
The only advantage that Creatine Monohydrate has over all these newer and improved creatines is it Cost less. But you get what you pay for!
Look into it more if you dont belive me. There is creatine info on every bodybuilding forum on the internet.
Using creatine Monohydrate is like Driving your pinto when you could be using CEE and is like a ferrari compared to the MONO.
This info is from sources all over the web and my Previous experience with monohydrate.
If you want to get bloated and lose all the weight you gained when u stop the creatine, cuz most of it will be water get the monohydrate.
If you want gains with no water retention that last, look for CEE creatine.
Heres three good articles about creatine.
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/creatine-monohydrate.htm
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/creatine-benefits.htm
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/loading-creatine-use.htm
I use creatine Monohydrate and never needed anything else. If your just trying to lose some of your body fat, and gain more muscle, imo the best thing to do would be, do ALOT of cardio for a few weeks, lose weight, lift weights but not to your max. Once you get your body fat where you want it, then start taking the creatine, and working out hard. If your like me an impatient, I would just start taking the creatine eat alot, work out hard, and still hit the treadmill alot. Either way with the creatine you will notice ALOT more energy, my heart rate started to go up and I started to sweat before I even left for the gym. One big mistake with creatine though is people thinking, they can lift more weight, or they can do alot more sets and reps, trust me if you do that you will overtrain, you may be able to lift alittle more weight, but if you over do it you will be out of the gym for a few weeks. One of the real reasons I stoped though was beacuse, I dont know if it was the protein shakes or the creatine but it started messing with my stomach, and gave me horrible headaches, ill tell you now though creatine out of no where made me take the biggest ****s! in the middle of school when I literally had to run out of the class and say f you to my teachers.
So my advice would be take it in a controled enviroment when you can see what your side effects are first, before you **** your pants lol. And about all those other supplements, yea im sure they work, but your 17, your in highschool, dont make it complicated, you dont need to spend 100's of dollars on supplements to see what works best. Keep it simple, eat, creatine, protein, work out hard, and SLEEP
But about what smoking is saying, i read this a long time ago, dont remember where or exactly what, but most of the creatine you take in will get lost before it actually does something, so if your serious about it the forms with the better absortion rate will be best, BUT it will also be expensive, more then I ever would have imagined paying for supplements, and the powder worked for me, and works for alot of people.
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/creatine-monohydrate.htm
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/creatine-benefits.htm
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/loading-creatine-use.htm
I use creatine Monohydrate and never needed anything else. If your just trying to lose some of your body fat, and gain more muscle, imo the best thing to do would be, do ALOT of cardio for a few weeks, lose weight, lift weights but not to your max. Once you get your body fat where you want it, then start taking the creatine, and working out hard. If your like me an impatient, I would just start taking the creatine eat alot, work out hard, and still hit the treadmill alot. Either way with the creatine you will notice ALOT more energy, my heart rate started to go up and I started to sweat before I even left for the gym. One big mistake with creatine though is people thinking, they can lift more weight, or they can do alot more sets and reps, trust me if you do that you will overtrain, you may be able to lift alittle more weight, but if you over do it you will be out of the gym for a few weeks. One of the real reasons I stoped though was beacuse, I dont know if it was the protein shakes or the creatine but it started messing with my stomach, and gave me horrible headaches, ill tell you now though creatine out of no where made me take the biggest ****s! in the middle of school when I literally had to run out of the class and say f you to my teachers.
So my advice would be take it in a controled enviroment when you can see what your side effects are first, before you **** your pants lol. And about all those other supplements, yea im sure they work, but your 17, your in highschool, dont make it complicated, you dont need to spend 100's of dollars on supplements to see what works best. Keep it simple, eat, creatine, protein, work out hard, and SLEEP
But about what smoking is saying, i read this a long time ago, dont remember where or exactly what, but most of the creatine you take in will get lost before it actually does something, so if your serious about it the forms with the better absortion rate will be best, BUT it will also be expensive, more then I ever would have imagined paying for supplements, and the powder worked for me, and works for alot of people.
mob said:
EXACTLY MY POINT WHY NOT TO TAKE MONO. You just said it yourself.
You had to stop taking it becuase of stomach upset (yea 20 grams of creatine MONO) will do that. As well as making you have the liquid ****s.
MONOHYDRATE does work for some people, but it has its ill effects to (as it has to be taken in alot higher doese then CEE), as MOB has experienced above. Get CEE, no bloat no stomach aches, NO LOADING and NO ****TIN YOUR PANTS!
MOB if you have had good results with the MONO, go pick up some CEE and I guarantee you instead of great results they will be phenominal. Science/technology has advanced creatine alot from its early days of Creatine Mono.
smokin91' said:
haha yea, I got real busy with work and school so I dont have time to go to the gym, but when I start working out again, I'll look into that stuff.
mob said:
I just looked into it...its abou 50$ for one of the big bottles...thats not that bad...and thats for the Cellmass which looks like its good stuff
The only thing is now im gonna have to take 2 protein shakes AND one of these creatine berry flavored things? How bad are they lol
As well, what are you guys taking after your workout? you should be ingesting Carbs/Protien 2:1 ratio in a drink IMMEDIATLY after working out. THIS IS PARAMOUNT!
Have a protien shake and mix in like 50 grams of dextrose. This will give your muscles immediate fuel and replenish your depleted glycogen stores until you get home to eat some real food.
Have a protien shake and mix in like 50 grams of dextrose. This will give your muscles immediate fuel and replenish your depleted glycogen stores until you get home to eat some real food.
My protein shake recommends 3 scoops in 12 oz of water, a day, but that is just too gross for me to drink at once, so i take 1.5 scoops before the gym, I eat a chicken sandwhich, then when I get back I take the other 1.5 scoops, and eat some kind of meat, tuna, or chicken.
And lyncher dont worry about the creatine and protein in different drinks. For the powder, it has no taste, so you can put it all in one sip of water, and drink your protein shake, then take one big gulp of water and you have your protein and creatine, its not that bad.
And lyncher dont worry about the creatine and protein in different drinks. For the powder, it has no taste, so you can put it all in one sip of water, and drink your protein shake, then take one big gulp of water and you have your protein and creatine, its not that bad.
Lyncher said:I just looked into it...its abou 50$ for one of the big bottles...thats not that bad...and thats for the Cellmass which looks like its good stuff
The only thing is now im gonna have to take 2 protein shakes AND one of these creatine berry flavored things? How bad are they lol
I use the BSN line. NO-Xplode, CELLMASS and Nitrix. I have the ARCTIC BERRY flavour. I am very picky about tastes, and to tell you the truth, they taste pretty good. You wont be choking it down, thats for sure.
Go on ebay and get the BSN mass stack. NO-XPLODE, CELLMASS AND NITRIX. a 1 month supply ran me 130$ canadian shipped to my door.
Get it off a guy named E_SUPPLIMENTS on ebay, you will not find cheaper prices for anything anywhere else in this world! And his service is awsome.
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