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MM's 4 Bolt Caster/Camber Plates Rock

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4.6_02_Black_GT

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Okay I'll post a pic of mine too and give some pointers

Heres the skinny on the spacers. Granted I swapped out my stock struts and am running Illumnias. Anyway all the spacers should be used. First of all the ride height of the car is not being changed. Your SPRINGS are controlling that. So dont worry about that. All the spacers are doing is two things. Setting the amount of the strut that sticks up toward your hood(too high and you dent your hood). Second the more spacers you have below your CC plates you are gaining just a "small amount" less than an inch of additional strut travel with in the wheel well. You are NOT raising the car any by doing this.

I installed my plates per the MM directions. First check your hood clearance used straight edge about 5 feet long all the way across the sturt tower. Measured down from the straight edge to the top of the strut..(sticking up though the stock plates) recorded this measurement. I do seem to recall in was "around" 3 +inches. I also used clay to determine exacty how much more clearance I had before I dented my hood. Seems I had about another inch of clearance from the top of the strut(stock strut) before it would hit the hood. You simply use the combination of spacers that position the strut back to the height you measured in the first step. For me I chose to position the plate with half the spacers below the plate and half above it. I split the difference. When checking my measurements I actually raised the sturt up toward the hood about 1/3 inch. But since I had 1 inch to spare this worked well for me. As far as strut travel in the 2 years or so since I installed the plates and sturts I can still count on one hand the times I've bottomed out the strut. I run my Tokico Illuminas at the stiffest setting. Everything I just recapped is in the MM directions that came with your plates. ...bottom line split the stack of spacers and you should be fine...the only danger measure twice so you dont dent you hood. If you need me too I'll go count my spacers and give the count above and below the plates.
hope this helps.


 
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CottonBurnerz

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Hmm.. so it "doesn't matter" where and how many I put the spacers on each side. As long as the strut doesn't hit the hood then it's okay right?
 

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CottonBurnerz said:
That's what I confused on.. Say the stock measurment from the fender to top of the strut shaft is 3". Then you lower the car 1". So now when you install the mm c/c plate, you want to put the spacers to make the measurement from the fender to the top of strut shaft to be 4" instead of 3"?

What would happen if the hood doesn't fit? You have to add more spacers, thus, making you lose that 4" length and that would result in... ?
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You just have to shave the top of the strut.On mine we had to cut the slotted portion of the strut and the hood shut find!! And my stang slammed with the eibach sportlines!!
If you have aftermarket struts,i don't know what to say!!
 
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1low03gt said:
You just have to shave the top of the strut.On mine we had to cut the slotted portion of the strut and the hood shut find!! And my stang slammed with the eibach sportlines!!
If you have aftermarket struts,i don't know what to say!!
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lol yea i have tokico adjustable. so cutting is out of the question.. I'll manage somehow
 

4.6_02_Black_GT

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Cotton yea basically the spacer setup is really your choice.

The thing really to be concerned about is not to dent your hood. Also the spacer setup should match...ie (setup should be the same on both struts)

Dont worry...just protect the hood put the spacers in and you are good to go.

...Just note...make to really tighten down the large strut nut, some people dont and they get a mystious bumping sound when they hit a bit bump.
 

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4.6_02_Black_GT said:
Second the more spacers you have below your CC plates you are gaining just a "small amount" less than an inch of additional strut travel with in the wheel well.
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This is incorrect. Using less spacers underneath yields more strut travel. Putting spacers underneath drives the strut together more which means less travel. This is why it is better to have the struts up as high as you can without hitting the hood.

SonicB, the only reason your steering feels better is because now you have proper wheel alignment.
 

1low03gt

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SmokyBurnOut said:
This is incorrect. Using less spacers underneath yields more strut travel. Putting spacers underneath drives the strut together more which means less travel. This is why it is better to have the struts up as high as you can without hitting the hood.

SonicB, the only reason your steering feels better is because now you have proper wheel alignment.
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Some guy just laid into me today at a car show about my plates set up.My stang sits low,and that he is suprised that i didn't lose my front end yet!!...,because the dealer ship put my spacers on the top side,not the bottom side!!He also said my struts must be finished,and my ride must be sh@t.
I replied that my ride was nice,my stang is an '03(i bought brand new),and i installed my springs about a week after ownership,and she lowered that exact height,and has never changed!
He then went on that he had sportlines aswell with the C&C 4 bolt plates and has the spacers split 50/50.So i said before the C&C plates,my stock strut bushings were getting chewed because there was no strut travel,and to get travel back we spaced only on the top.And he still kept going on that it was wrong,and it is actually the other way,and will raise my car up a bit heigher!!
This was an arguement that was going nowhere,so i agreed and walked away!
The part that got me was the fact he asked me how old i was and that he owned X number of mustangs,so he has more expirienced!!
I know i'm not a child,am sort of married and have a child,and been out of school sence early 90's!!
Glad to see i wasn't wrong in reading the instruction when we where installing the C&C plates at the dealership,because that is the way they read it too!!
 
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How do you know when you shocks/struts are "bottomed" out? And how to fix it? What caused it?
 
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Ride quality goes to crap... You can usually tell if a strut or shock goes... My 87 GT's struts are getting bad... over 200,000 miles stock struts... Im tight on that car... But I have my stock struts and shocks on my 97 and its lowered 2.25 inches and over 100,000 miles... Our stock struts are crappy performance wise but they hold up great compared to 4 cylinders... My bro replaced 2 struts in his 98 eclipse on coil overs...
 
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Is there a certain point or position when you put in new shocks/struts that will make it bottoms out really quick? I want to learn more about this..
 

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What about 3 bolt CC plates. I see you can just bolt those in, would that be fine if I lower my car 1.5 inches?
 
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