• Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • 1994 - 1995 Specific Tech

Motor HP vs RWhp???

  • Thread starter Thread starter balderman
  • Start date Start date Mar 9, 2004

balderman

New Member
Dec 6, 2002
563
0
0
Spring City, PA
Mar 9, 2004
#1
  • Mar 9, 2004
  • #1
If the Motor is pumping out about 35HP.. what would the RWHP be.. is there an average 15% that is lost through the tranny?

What is it for AODE and what for 5-speed

Just curious...

Thanks
 
L

law

New Member
Aug 6, 2003
290
0
0
Mar 9, 2004
#2
  • Mar 9, 2004
  • #2
Well from what I have read and what I have learned, for a mustang the average lost is about 15% for 5-speed and for an automatic I heard it is as much as 20-25% if not more. So if you have 215 HP then you would multiple 215x.15=32 then subtract 215 from 32 and it would roughly be 183RWHP. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
 

Joes95GT

New Member
Jan 23, 2003
3,132
1
0
Delaware
Mar 9, 2004
#3
  • Mar 9, 2004
  • #3
law said:
Well from what I have read and what I have learned, for a mustang the average lost is about 15% for 5-speed and for an automatic I heard it is as much as 20-25% if not more. So if you have 215 HP then you would multiple 215x.15=32 then subtract 215 from 32 and it would roughly be 183RWHP. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Click to expand...
Thats right. Typically, on an AODE that has no aftermarket torque converter the loss seems to be closer to 25% if not slightly higher.

Joe
 

Babyduck

New Member
Mar 7, 2004
49
0
0
Cocoa Bch, FL
Mar 9, 2004
#4
  • Mar 9, 2004
  • #4
I wonder if this drivetrain loss percentage is linear... for example, if your car (aode) is making 250h/p at the flywheel, thats roughly 188h/p at the wheels, if you use the 25% rule ( which i find alittle on the steep side).

Now if you take a 700 flywheel horse motor, you come out with about a 175h/p loss through the drivetrain. ( agian, an aode)
(525rwhp) Doesnt seem logical. Then again, your probably going to have an aftermarket convertor on this 700h/p motor, which would bring the drivetrain loss down to what?, 20% or less? Still though, a 175h/p loss through the drivetrain on a high h/p motor vs a low h/p motor shouldnt make a diference. Maybe im missing somthing here?
so in reality, when we say the blocks are splitting at 500 h/p, really its more like the block can take about 600-670h/p before it becomes unstable??

Anyone know, im curious?
 

Numbles

Active Member
Dec 10, 2003
998
0
36
Chicago, IL
Mar 9, 2004
#5
  • Mar 9, 2004
  • #5
Babyduck you said it before I could. Ive wondered the same thing about the drivetrain loss percentage. It seems a little wrong.

Plus in my opinion, a 700hp motor aint gonna have a hard time turing over a transmission and a set of tires so how does it lose more than a low hp motor.
 

S/CBlack95GT

New Member
Apr 6, 2003
2,018
0
0
Tampa Palms, FL
Mar 9, 2004
#6
  • Mar 9, 2004
  • #6
Numbles said:
Babyduck you said it before I could. Ive wondered the same thing about the drivetrain loss percentage. It seems a little wrong.

Plus in my opinion, a 700hp motor aint gonna have a hard time turing over a transmission and a set of tires so how does it lose more than a low hp motor.
Click to expand...

You must remember that dynojets record power based on how fast the engine rotates the tires, they do not record based on load or brake power. So a high horsepower engine will rotate the tires faster, which creates a greater power loss. It takes more power to turn the drivetrain from 50-120mph in 5 seconds than in 8 seconds, therefore the engine will appear to lose more power even though it is still 15% of the engine's total power.

I once heard an engineer from Holley say they found from their research with Mustangs that manuals lose about 18% and the autos lose about 23%. I like to stay conservative and use a 16% loss.
 
F

flewthecoupe

New Member
Mar 1, 2004
16
0
0
Mar 9, 2004
#7
  • Mar 9, 2004
  • #7
Read all about it here....Horsepower loss
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

K
86 GT Water Pump
  • Kade5114
  • May 11, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
3
Views
83
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- May 11, 2026
nickyb
J
MEED HELP!! 86 mustang
  • Jacob0121
  • Jan 23, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
6
Views
314
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Apr 25, 2026
CAMTWO1070
Motor mounts question
  • djj62478
  • Mar 18, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
15
Views
452
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Apr 13, 2026
nickyb
C
98 gt fuel pressure issues
  • chasecollier1984
  • Jun 2, 2026
  • SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech
Replies
0
Views
58
SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech Jun 2, 2026
chasecollier1984
C
J
Help - SCT Woes
  • James banks
  • Jan 29, 2026
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
4
Views
376
1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- Feb 2, 2026
squeak93
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • 1994 - 1995 Specific Tech
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?