Need A Little Help

Hey. Chris, welcome to Stangnet.

I'm going to move your thread over to our fox tech subforum. Someone will help you there.

Good to have you with us.

Chris W said:

I have an 87 mustang gt, I recently put a 94 engine in I had to swap the distributor, it will run at tdc but it won't idle.. is there a crank or cam sensor in the motor I'm overlooking should it still run if there not hooked up? Should the throttle position sensor be recalibrated? Car is speed density, motor odviously mass air.. ANY help would be GREATLY appreciated. .thanks

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@Chris W
The '87 wiring, and all other supporting sensors and such were retained? Only thing different is the '94 engine? Did you keep the '94 Upper Intake Manifold, or use the '87? Considerable difference there. '94 also had a different Throttle Body, Throttle Position Sensor, and Idle Air Control valve.

'94 engine doesn't care about Speed Density or Mass Air; given S.D. computer, it should run OK. Distributor from '87 was used in '94, because of TFI Sensor mounted on Distributor, instead of '94 remote-mount? Make certain you have the Distributor properly inserted in the engine. There is NO crank or cam sensor used with the '94, crank position and spark all come from the TFI. Set your distributor to 10 degrees BTDC WITH THE SPOUT CONNECTOR in the harness REMOVED. Then, put it back.

Your best bet to avoid the questions posed by the '94 T.B. and it's hardware is to use your '87 Upper Intake, with it's T.B., T.P.S., and IAC. Inlet ductwork fits better, too. Beyond that, I can't help much more. Others with more smarts than me, will hopefully jump in. Good Luck. imp

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Chris W said:

Thanks for the replies, I think my problem is I'm using the 94 intake.. will have to find an 87 and try it

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@Chris W
I thought by the way you wrote, you had the entire '87 engine to begin with. imp

i assume you did not install the mass air meter from the 94
it doesnt matterer if you used the 94 intake as long as you installed the IAT sensor in the airbox and used your 87 distributor, pulleys, accessories, brackets, exhaust
Yes you need to adjust the TPS and base idle

Not sure why you didnt just use the 94 EEC and swap over the 87 to mass air. Its only 4 wires to repin and the MAF wiring. You can buy the kit for less than $100 or make one yourself using a JY MAF pigtail

mikestang63 said:

i assume you did not install the mass air meter from the 94
it doesnt matterer if you used the 94 intake as long as you installed the IAT sensor in the airbox and used your 87 distributor, pulleys, accessories, brackets, exhaust
Yes you need to adjust the TPS and base idle

Not sure why you didnt just use the 94 EEC and swap over the 87 to mass air. Its only 4 wires to repin and the MAF wiring. You can buy the kit for less than $100 or make one yourself using a JY MAF pigtail

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The 94-95 T4M0 computer has a different pinout from the A9 series computers used in 89-93 Mustangs. It can be made to work, but there is much to be done to make it work. You must move pins around in the computer wiring harness connector and some other changes to accommodate the CCRM modules that aren't present.