Need Blower advice on Saleen

royb · May 2, 2005

Ok, I got my Saleen blower today from ups. & I could tell they had turned the blower on its nose and about a half quart of oil came out of the nose of the unit.
can anyone tell me if the blower is supposed to be sealed so no oil can come out of the nose if turned on its side?

lostsoul · May 2, 2005

I used to work at Fedx and they all treat packages like sheet. =-/.. the shippers must package it like the mummy

delurker · May 2, 2005

I don't think there's any need for concern, Roy. Mine dripped a bit out of the snout from being tipped, and I'm sure that oil is supplied from the oil passages in the heads. It would get really old and burnt otherwise.

If you pull the blower out of the box I'm sure you'll see oil supply passages in the underside. You could also check the pics in the directions - I'd do it now, but I'm at work and the instructions are at home.

royb · May 3, 2005

would you keep this? I won't Back to Saleen it goes

delurker · May 3, 2005

That's not half a quart of oil, more like a few ounces. Hell, mine gleeked out more than that just from carrying the box around.

Assuming the heat exchanger and everything else in the box with it are undamaged, I wouldn't worry about it. The blower is a lot stronger than the box.

What does the outside of the box look like?

royb · May 3, 2005

delurker said:
That's not half a quart of oil, more like a few ounces. Hell, mine gleeked out more than that just from carrying the box around.

Assuming the heat exchanger and everything else in the box with it are undamaged, I wouldn't worry about it. The blower is a lot stronger than the box.

What does the outside of the box look like?

The pictures don't tell the story that well but in person they beat the hell out of it. There's at least a half quart soaked into the box. The heavy gauge box material at the pulley is chrushed and that means it was tossed from about 3 feet on to it's pully. I worked for ups and know how they move freight - most of the time they are good but not in this case.

delurker · May 3, 2005

The blower itself is probably fine - I would closely inspect the parts that come in the bottom of the box, and unless they're pristine, I would return it. Might return it anyway, just because it looks like all the guys in the warehouse had a contest to see who could demolish it.

I hear ya on the UPS package handling method. It's like everything gets rammed into a corner with a forklift. I've had to send back a few things over the past year because UPS smashed them.

Vandil · May 3, 2005

I'd probably call saleen and explain that the shipping company kicked the hell out of it. Not like that's a $100 part and should have been fully insured when shipped. I made UPS eat $18,000 on a package they completely mauled, box was in about the same external shape as yours.

royb · May 3, 2005

It's going back to Saleen & they will ship me a new unit. I'm glad I went with Saleen. Screw UPS :damnit:

royb · May 3, 2005

Vandil said:
I'd probably call saleen at explain that the shipping company kicked the hell out of it. Not like that's a $100 part and should have been fully insured when shipped. I made UPS eat $18,000 on a package they completely mauled, box was in about the same external shape as yours.

18k - what did you buy?

Vandil · May 3, 2005

royb said:
18k - what did you buy?

New Quad Zeon SAN server which I was shipping from CO to WI after staging. Had it packaged up nice and tight in the original shipping materials with kick me stickers on it. (fragile)

Some fool either tossed it into the truck or dropped it from about 5 feet up. When it finally showed in WI the steel case was fubar'd along with 50% of the internal components.

Took UPS about 3 weeks to cut me a check and only AFTER they had repair costs checked out and confirmed to be in excess of a new kit.

05SatinSilver · May 3, 2005

Personally, I'd send it back as well. I just had Fedex cut me a check for $935 for my mountain bike. Packed very well in a bike box. When the buyer got it, he told the driver, what happened to the box. It's beat to $hit? The driver said "I don't know, but if anything is damaged, just open a claim" He called me, I opened the claim, as the sender. The downtube on the bike had a golf-ball sized dent in it! Not repairable. Only took Fedex 4 business days to close the claim and make payment. Thank-god for buying the Insurance on the package. The insurance was like $3.00.

Dave...

royb · May 3, 2005

delurker said:
...I'm sure that oil is supplied from the oil passages in the heads. It would get really old and burnt otherwise.

If you pull the blower out of the box I'm sure you'll see oil supply passages in the underside. You could also check the pics in the directions - I'd do it now, but I'm at work and the instructions are at home.

Just so you know the unit is self contained and doesn't recieve oil from the engine / heads / or any other part.

delurker · May 3, 2005

So where is the oil coming from, then? I have some spillage, too, but UPS hasn't touched my box.

royb · May 3, 2005

delurker said:
So where is the oil coming from, then? I have some spillage, too, but UPS hasn't touched my box.

Saleen says that some oil can come out if the unit is tipped toward the pully. My issues isn't the oil as much as the pully/snout took some hard drops from shipping and they only way to know it's still in specfications is to take it apart and measure the roto/screw clearance. For 5k it's not worth the gamble that it would work correctly and for any amount of time.

I'm still stunned that the unit would allow any leakage since one would think that under boost oil would get forced out.

delurker · May 3, 2005

I guess my next questions have to be, how much spillage is acceptable, how is it replenished, is it supposed to slop out when I engage ABS, and is that oil really supposed to last 50,000 miles between scheduled blower maintenance?

lostsoul · May 3, 2005

haha.. that is sad.. saleen KNOWS there might be leakage.. and its ok? that oil is needed for the sc.. how much can leak out and still run at top speed?? come on.. 5K for that.. time for a whipple or something else

delurker · May 3, 2005

As recently as last year with the Series V, the Saleen superchargers were Whipple.

I think if I stand my car on its nose perpendicular to the ground, the oil dripping out of the blower snout will be the least of my worries.

lostsoul · May 3, 2005

well it cant be "self contained" oil if most of it is absorbed in the shipping box =-) .. your money though..

delurker · May 3, 2005

I'm inclined to believe it's as "self contained" as the Whipple. Take a look at Whipple's maintenance page here.

It is recommended that the following items be inspected at all normal engine service intervals.
1. Check belt condition and tension. Replace or adjust as required.
2. Check the supercharger oil level. Adjust if required.
3. Clean and oil the air filter at the factory recommended intervals.
4. Change the oil in your supercharger every 20,000 miles with an SAE 5-50 wt. synthetic motor oil.

WARNING: Severe damage will occur if over-filled. Check level every 4000 miles and only use 5W-50 synthetic engine oil.

Turn your "self-contained" car upside down and see if a little oil doesn't go where it shouldn't be.

Better yet, stand your Whipple on its snout and watch to see if anything drips.

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