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Need Help Identifying Wheels, Late Fox Factory Wheels?

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l1k2gadd

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I have seen wheels like these on later model Mustangs. I bought a parts car that has these wheels on it. They resemble the SN95 wheels right down to the area that the center cap pushes onto. They are FOUR LUG thought and not five lug. The chrome center caps are missing and the one center cap on the only wheel with one on it is a silver center cap and it has a 1996 Mustang part number on the cap.

If I can find out if these wheels were first offered in late 1993 I would be interested in keeping them and installing them on one of my other Fox Body Mustangs (since I like my cars stock or with original Ford parts on them).



Has anyone ever seen these on a Fox Body Mustang before?

Are they a late 1993 production Mustang wheel that was used more in 1994 and up rather than in 1993?

Thanks.
 

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A friend of mine has a set of these for sale, his are painted silver. I'm pretty sure they're aftermarket, but I can't remember who made them.
 

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The wheels have fairly new tires on them and when I removed one wheel and tire from the car I was able to find all kinds of casting marks on them for DOT, size, width, maximum load and so on, but no Ford markings. I don't have a tire changer so I haven't removed the tires from the wheels yet to look further.

I know the Turbines and Ponys have identifying marks in the lug area of the wheels.

I don't know where the SN95 Mustang wheels are marked with the Ford logos though. These would probably be marked in the same area with Ford logos if they are OEM late production wheels.

I have seen late production Fox-style Pony wheels with curved sections in the lug area like there was a thought to make them in a 5-lug wheel too but I have only seen Ponys in 4-lug wheels.

The car has a Ford logo Cobra lower intake on it (that is if the Cobra lower is different from the GT lower) and a Cobra plenum on it too. The guy I bought it from said he took parts off of a 1993 Cobra GT convertible that his friend got rear-ended in that totaled the car. I have since found through research that the Canadian Cobra GT convertibles were made up to 1992 and sold up there in Canada and were pretty much a plain GT convertible with Cobra markings on it, so I figure the guy I bought the car from may have been BS'n me a bit.

Thanks, ReefBlueHatch.
 

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edit... nevermind those are a 4lug... no idea what they are. they look like the 94-98 wheels that were on 94-95 gt's with 16's and 96-98's v6's
 

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That is what stumped me. I thought the car had a 5-lug conversion when I first started to look at it. Since three of the center caps are missing I looked expecting to see 5 lugs in the center cap openings. Was I shocked to see 4 lugs.

When I got the car home (25 mile or so drive, under its own power) and I finally got to take the only center cap off of the wheel, I found the non-chrome center cap has the 1996 part number on it.

In trying to research optional wheels for the late model Fox Body Mustangs I came across someone else's ad with a picture of a car with wheels that supposedly were gong to be Mustang production wheels but never made the 1994 + production. These were on a Fox Body Mustang. I have never seen those wheels before on a Fox Body Mustang either.

(edit) The wheels are 16" wheels so putting them into the late Fox Body production time would be most probable, at my best guess.
 
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They are OE SN95 wheels.
 

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FoxChasis said:
They are OE SN95 wheels.
Click to expand...

But in 4-lug?


I remember seeing something about 91-93 pony style wheels being offered in 5-lug in 1994 as an add on accessory...and pic floating around of a 94 V6 wearing them. Did they do the same in reverse with the 94-98 waffle star, but in 4-lug?
 

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Crap thats wierd...4 lug and all! Maybe someone took and had them redrilled for 4 lug???
Matt
 

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Those are aftermarket. They aren't redrilled and looking at the casting it doesn't look oem. It was probally some wheel offered at one time that has since gone by. It's possible that a Ford center cap would fit on, alot of times aftermarket companies would copy an oem wheel but change it up just enough to get away with it. If there isn't any ford marking on the wheel that would be a dead give away for me that they aren't ford, even a mule wheel would have markings.
 

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Intresting dilema you have there. Did they ever make that wheel in chrome for the sn-95's? if so would those center caps fit?
 

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I pulled out an old copy of Muscle Mustangs Fast Fords from October 1996 and there was an ad in the back for AFS that offered these wheels in chrome, regular and white in 4 and 5 lug. This was the only ad I saw, but I am sure there were others. AFS is still in business, I bought a set of wheels from them a couple of months ago.
 

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Ok, that is getting me the information I was looking for. The only place I didn't look for Ford logos is on the surface of the wheels under where the tires are mounted. That would have been my next move as some wheels had markings on the inside surface in the 60s. The castings that show maximum load, maximum tire pressure and the wheel dimensions are on the back side of the spokes.

Thank you for researching this in the old copy of Muscle Mustangs Fast Fords from October 1996, cjrpony, I appreciate you taking the time to look.

Not to sound dumb, since I like stock parts on my cars (60s, 80s and 90s) I don't know the after-market companies at all. Who is AFS?
 

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I couldn't get a hold of my buddy that has a set of these. His are 17" 4-lug and are painted silver. They really look like a copy of SN95 wheels in person. I almost bought them for my car.
 

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I've got a MMFF from 2000 that shows them in an AFS ad as well.
 

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AFS Wheels
7301 Deering Avenue
Canoga Park, CA 91303-1504

AFS stands for Autumn Fleet Sales, Inc. They apparently have been in business since 91 and make alot of replica wheels. I know they do a lot of business on Ebay. They have an Ebay store and a wide selection of wheels. I got a set of 03 Cobra replicas from them a few months ago and they look awesome. I was very happy with them. Of course, I haven't had a chance to really drive the car yet this year, so well see how they hold up.

I don't know if they made your wheels, but they were the only ad for 4-lug versions that I saw.
 

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Thanks to everyone!

I found AFS online and used their "Contact Us" link and e-mailed them before I signed off last night. I had problems signing back on here so I didn't do that last night.

AFS sent a response this morning, but I just got it since I signed on for a few minutes tonight before turning in for the night. They said the wheels look like Optima brand wheels and they said Optima went out of business in 2000. They also told me the factory caps did fit these wheels but Ford didn't make the caps in Chrome (just like the '96 cap on the one wheel now).

This saved time and saved me money by keeping me from paying to break down one wheel to look for logos somewhere on the inside surface of the wheel.

Again, thanks everyone! My curiosity has been satisfied and my questions have been answered.
 

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this sint the first time theese wheels have showed up on stangnet about 5 years ago somebody else had the same rims.
 
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