New Car

[stang_10]

Does a new car off from the truck have any wax or coating's on? I mean before the dealer touches it? I want to know more about the sealers, are they used before waxing or after?

 

[isjoining]

you can use a sealant before or after applying wax, as long as the sealant and wax doesn't have any cleaners in it.

 

[08blueskunk]

from what i have been told if it is new off the truck from a production line (special ordered car) it won't have anything on it, thats why alot of cars will have the white plastic sheeting stuck on them, It is suggested that a "new" car should not be waxed untill paint cures completely. Which can take a month or 2...It won't hurt it but from what i was told once...The color may never be exactly as intened to be by the manufacturer, which could make "matching it up" if paint work needs to be done later at somepoint in it's life.

I know when i had my roush louvers painted the didn't match exactly at certain angles and the dealer said wait a month or two before waxing so the paint can "bleed out". Now i noticed it is 100% exact from all angles...they look completely stock.

Just another tid bit of info i learned about car paint from a custom paint guy...Paint that contains metal flake actually has some static charge to it...and depending on the static charge built up on a body panel or surface to be painted eitehr positive or negatively charged, it causes the metal flake to "lay" in a certian direction...So later on down the road if you are having paint work done, it may be eaxctly color matching but the static charge could cause the metal flake to lay in a different direction...

 

[isjoining]

factory paint on the cars are baked before shipped off, so there shouldn't be any curing time.

 

[stang_10]

When the time comes

So, do you all believe it is okay to just let the new car detailer do his job. I plan on getting mine in Black. I don't know what kind of **** they use and I don't want any new blemishes...

 

[isjoining]

If it were up to me, I'd do the detailing myself and not have anyone at the dealership do it. It's not very hard and the results will be great with the right products.

 

[08blueskunk]

Pay an outside professional, or do it yourself...Jerks at my dealer**** put so much tireshine on it took 45minutes to clean it off after it sprayed all over the sides of the car driving it home...Makes me question the thought process of the dealer**** "detailers"

 

[wytstang]

you can use a sealant before or after applying wax, as long as the sealant and wax doesn't have any cleaners in it.

Negative, a sealant will not layer on top of carnuaba wax. The oils in wax will keep the sealant from properly bonding to the paint. Also most sealants need at least 12hrs of curing time before they can be layered.

 

[4point6]

The one month wait time for curing is if it's a body shop paint job, not a factory one. The factory does bake it to cure it, which body shops do not. If you are getting black, I wouldn't let the dealership touch it; their mistakes will be very obvious on black.

 

[5.0_GT_kid]

Negative, a sealant will not layer on top of carnuaba wax. The oils in wax will keep the sealant from properly bonding to the paint. Also most sealants need at least 12hrs of curing time before they can be layered.

+1

Good to see you around again Danny.

 

[wytstang]

+1

Good to see you around again Danny.

Hey Eric, yeah I've taken time off of the go fast hobby since it's going no where fast . I'm more into detailing (big surprise huh?) and finding my way back to car audio. So I'm not on here much at all (seeing all the same questions being asks doesn't make me miss it either [94/95 side]). Sorry for the high jack.....

 

[MustangLX-5.0]

If your buying the car new,and if it allready looks clean,leave it as is.Detail has allready done a "Clean for Stock" detail job on it just for the sales lot.Unless you spotted it being pulled off the truck.

And there are no waxes or sealants applied to it from the factory.The only problem you may want to address is industrial fallout.That is,the car can be spotless clean but you take your hand over it and it feels like dirt or grit is stuck all over it...that's fallout.Has to be removed with a special cleaner or soft claybar.

As everyone else stated,paint is baked at factory.BUT..it's still soft for a couple months and scratches very easily.Don't let detail touch it.Especially if it's black.I've seen swirl city after they got through with it.

I work at a major Ford Dealership in the shop.I do the inspections and test drives on all new vehicles that come off the truck.Just fyi

 

[MrNazty]

i would reccomend clay baring the whole car and maybe washing it with a good degreaser applied to it first just to get out all the impurities and then using a good carnuba wax after all is said and done. i use dupont carnuba wax and ive had good results but there are MANY out there that will work, you just have to find one good for your paint because everybodys paint is worn a little different so some might be easier to take off for some but harder for others. and after claybaring never wax a large portion of the car before removing it ALWAYS use the wax on/ wax off technique here, becasue theres not a good base coat of wax on there to keep it from sticking so bad.

 

[MustangLX-5.0]

I wouldn't use a degreaser on the paint.Most degreasers have heavy corrosive acids in them.This stuff WILL etch the paint bad.The only SAFE degreaser I know of is Simple Green.BTW Simple Green is the best without etching paint or metal..smells good, and doesn't eat your skin off.

Good reccomendations Mr Nazty. +1 ...oh...and make sure you stay in a shaded area.Baked on wax is not fun to buff ..let alone scratch the finish.