New Cobra gets smoked...

Uncle Meat · Sep 25, 2004

You all can speculate and theorize this until you're blue in the face. It's still a ricer. I bet he's got 50K in that thing. 20K more in the Cobra and he woulda smoked that poopra. Don't get no respect. Yada, yada, yada...

Bottom line is BRING IT, DON'T SING IT!

The video posted above doesn't lie. The Supra was the better car in THAT race.

U.M.

fiveofanatic · Sep 25, 2004

Racing from a roll = weak sauce.

That is all.

ChaosStarter · Sep 25, 2004

Damn, some of you guys sre just die hard domestic-lovers aren't ya? Can't stand to see your flagship lose to a import? jeez. The cobra lost, so the other guy must have N20, a T88, and a million dollars to beat that cobra!!!!

Trust me, I love the Cobra's, but that one simply got 'ed every time. And he wasn't even making excuses about it like you guys. Also, he wasn't using nitrous, do you realize how much fuel those Supra's use once they start getting into bigger turbo's? He was prolly running rich as hell, and it prolly ignited in the exhaust somewhere, and you saw the flames. Give the Cobra some credit, he kept up somewhat, but for the most part, got wrecked by prolly the fastest import ever sent over here from Japan. They shoudl've gone from a stop as well, but what are you going to do, that was the Cobra guys fault for not asking for that.

doogz · Sep 25, 2004

gemex said:
Last time I looked a 700hp car will beat a 450hp car every time. Time to upgrade to a KB.

Nice theory but it doesn't hold true. This seems like a no brainer but you could trap 120MPH and run 13s or trap 109 and tickle 11s. Suspension, weight, traction, and driver skill all play critical roles in determining which is really faster.

ChaosStarter · Sep 25, 2004

doogz said:
Nice theory but it doesn't hold true. This seems like a no brainer but you could trap 120MPH and run 13s or trap 109 and tickle 11s. Suspension, weight, traction, and driver skill all play critical roles in determining which is really faster.

on the 1/4, yes. but from a roll, the only thing that will matter is weight, which is what the race ONLY consisted of.

doogz · Sep 25, 2004

ChaosStarter said:
on the 1/4, yes. but from a roll, the only thing that will matter is weight, which is what the race ONLY consisted of.

Assuming you have traction, this is correct. I never understood the point of racing someone from a roll.

doogz · Sep 25, 2004

STUD said:
The ricer cheated, he had to use nitrous. You could see the flames coming from the tailpipes. What a piece of garbage, the ricer had to use nitrous to beat the mustang, otherwise, the ricer was being creamed by the cobra.

The supra sucks, and he probably damaged his motor from using that much nitrous. Hey, if you're reading this ricer, your supra sucks and you didn't really beat the cobra, because you cheated. If the cobra would have used nitrous also, your super slow supra would have been a 1/4 mile behind in a few seconds.

later

Cheated?

unistork · Sep 27, 2004

What is that sound the Cobra makes when he's racing? Sounds like this eeeeeee noise.

the supra had to have some boost/nos under the hood, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2491119806&category=6447 this looks like the same one in the vid goin for 40k ****.. but it has 3.0L 6 cylinder so obviously they must've had some HEAVY mods done

Uncle Meat · Sep 27, 2004

unistork said:
What is that sound the Cobra makes when he's racing? Sounds like this eeeeeee noise.

the supra had to have some boost/nos under the hood, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2491119806&category=6447 this looks like the same one in the vid goin for 40k ****.. but it has 3.0L 6 cylinder so obviously they must've had some HEAVY mods done

That "Eeeeeeee" noise would be the sound of the supercharger!

U.M.

ChaosStarter · Sep 28, 2004

unistork said:
What is that sound the Cobra makes when he's racing? Sounds like this eeeeeee noise.

the supra had to have some boost/nos under the hood, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2491119806&category=6447 this looks like the same one in the vid goin for 40k ****.. but it has 3.0L 6 cylinder so obviously they must've had some HEAVY mods done

wow. you must not know much about Supra's. They're ALL selling like that beacuse of that stupid F&F movie. Most people know that Supra + big turbo + big boost = highway MONSTER. Most guys don't even run N20 unless they're track people to help the turbo spool at the track.

Craig Mack · Sep 28, 2004

Uncle Meat said:
That "Eeeeeeee" noise would be the sound of the supercharger!

U.M.

CarrollShelby · Sep 28, 2004

It was a stock brand new Cobra again's a high mod's Supra... For sure it's no match! 400hp Cobra vs 600hp Supra... It's not a fair play!

5.0's 4 ever · Sep 28, 2004

The way I see it is that cobra got wasted. Going from a roll or dead stop, its both racing in my opinion. Plain and simple the cobra lost and the faster car won. The faster car being a supra seems to make a lot people uneasy and try to take away from its win. I give respect to that supra. It took time and money to get his car that fast just like how we do it with our mustangs.

SSinfull · Sep 28, 2004

OMG...

I can't believe this thread is going!!!!!!!!!

I am most blown away by all the excuses people are making for the Snake...

I have a freaking 03 cobra but I am educated enough on supras to know one simple fact:

1. Supra + Single Turbo Upgrade = watch the F out!!!

Most every Supra around my neck of the woods that has done the Single turbo upgrade is putting between 550-600+ HP to the freaking wheels!!!!!!

Go to a freaking Supra Forum and read before making a fool out of yourself!

And this whole deal on weight........ OMFG!!!!

If you would have taken the time to research Supras you would have found that they barely weigh less then a 03-4 Cobra at like 3600lbs and some even weigh more depending on the year and what they have done to the car!!!

And with a single turbo upgrade it would not have mattered if they raced from a roll, stop, or off a cliff...

The Supra would have still owned that Cobra.

Period!

My Favorite comment of the night is the post about the NOS BS... Every freaking import I have ever seen with a Monster turbo shoots flames under boost when shifting... Thats normal and is not freaking NOS.

Man... I have never seen so many uninformed posts in one thread... ever!

Would I ever buy a Supra? NO
Do I like them? Not really
Do I respect them? Yes!
Can the Almighty 03-4 Cobra possible be beat...? YES!
Did that Cobra get waxed in the vid YES!
Would it have mattered if they raced from a stop? Yes.... The Supra would have been Many more car lengths ahead of the Cobra by the time it reached 160

STUD · Sep 29, 2004

SSinfull said:
OMG...

I can't believe this thread is going!!!!!!!!!

I am most blown away by all the excuses people are making for the Snake...

I have a freaking 03 cobra but I am educated enough on supras to know one simple fact:

1. Supra + Single Turbo Upgrade = watch the F out!!!

Most every Supra around my neck of the woods that has done the Single turbo upgrade is putting between 550-600+ HP to the freaking wheels!!!!!!

Go to a freaking Supra Forum and read before making a fool out of yourself!

And this whole deal on weight........ OMFG!!!!

If you would have taken the time to research Supras you would have found that they barely weigh less then a 03-4 Cobra at like 3600lbs and some even weigh more depending on the year and what they have done to the car!!!

And with a single turbo upgrade it would not have mattered if they raced from a roll, stop, or off a cliff...

The Supra would have still owned that Cobra.

Period!

My Favorite comment of the night is the post about the NOS BS... Every freaking import I have ever seen with a Monster turbo shoots flames under boost when shifting... Thats normal and is not freaking NOS.

Man... I have never seen so many uninformed posts in one thread... ever!

Would I ever buy a Supra? NO
Do I like them? Not really
Do I respect them? Yes!
Can the Almighty 03-4 Cobra possible be beat...? YES!
Did that Cobra get waxed in the vid YES!
Would it have mattered if they raced from a stop? Yes.... The Supra would have been Many more car lengths ahead of the Cobra by the time it reached 160

03-04 cobra with twin screw KB and 4:10's=bye bye Eurotrash Supra, and that's under 6k.

Mustang Cobra, the Ultimate muscle car for under 40k, now and in the future(06-07). Put another 5-6k in an 03-04 Cobra, and you'll beat almost everthing, even those overpriced AMG Mercedes, BMW M3's and M5's, Camaro's, corvette's, vipers, porche's, GTO's, Supra's, Ferrari's, and many more.

Mustang Cobra, the essence of muscle cars.

I don't care what you do to any eurotrash pos, it will never sound and rumble like the built in the USA Mustang Cobra MACHINE.

Later
Go Bush and Cheney

Joe 5.0 · Sep 30, 2004

Wow, lots of pretty stupid people on here. You like the Cobra, we get that, but do some research on the car before you trash it.

BTW How can the Supra be Euro-trash when it comes from Japan. Get a clue.

Uncle Meat · Sep 30, 2004

STUD said:
03-04 cobra with twin screw KB and 4:10's=bye bye Eurotrash Supra, and that's under 6k.

Mustang Cobra, the Ultimate muscle car for under 40k, now and in the future(06-07). Put another 5-6k in an 03-04 Cobra, and you'll beat almost everthing, even those overpriced AMG Mercedes, BMW M3's and M5's, Camaro's, corvette's, vipers, porche's, GTO's, Supra's, Ferrari's, and many more.

Mustang Cobra, the essence of muscle cars.

I don't care what you do to any eurotrash pos, it will never sound and rumble like the built in the USA Mustang Cobra MACHINE.

Later
Go Bush and Cheney

You can make any lump of crap fast if you dump enough money into it, so what's your point? Give me a Hyundai and 25K and I'll smoke your KB Cobra...

You are using the "Ricer Mentality" with that argument!

U.M.

gemex · Sep 30, 2004

He has a good point that with 6k in mods the Cobra will take any street Supra. As I have said before on another post, “I have a friend that did a turbo and such on his Supra, after 70k in mods it’s finally reliable to drive and puts down 700hp giving the total cost including car around 100k.”

You can get the same results in a new Cobra for less then 45k. The Cobra is still the better bang for the buck, but the Lotus Elise is a close second. With a turbo kit on the Lotus they are running mid 10s

Avenger · Sep 30, 2004

gemex said:
He has a good point that with 6k in mods the Cobra will take any street Supra.

Dumbest thread ever

Uncle Meat · Sep 30, 2004

With 6K in mods teh Cobra can neva lose!!!

U.M.

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