Oil pump rod in wrong hole????????

bryanrevans

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I have spent the last 3 months pulling my motor changeing everything,installing stuff in sig.new timing chain,oil pump all seals clutch d a m near everything short of complete rebuild.........When I put in new oil pump I put the rod-shaft up in wrong hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!F U K K k k

 

bryanrevans

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I am trying to prime the oil pump and makeing noooo contact with shaft/priming tool I look down into dizzy hole and the oil pump rod is to the left next to cam gear!!!!!!!!! I didnt even know it (oil-pump)would even bolt up with the shaft incorrectly inserted.

 

bryanrevans

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this cant beeeee!!!!

 

vristang

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Sorry Dude!

Look at the bright side.

Now you've had 3mo. of practice, so taking the motor back apart will be sooo easy.

That sucks

Can you get to the shaft without pulling everything apart.

 

bryanrevans

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it would be nice!!!but its up against cam gear.

 

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Do you have the little clip on the shaft? If not, I'd tell you how to make a tool to pull the pump-drive shaft out. I'm guessing the clip is on (as it should be) and you are going to have to pull the oil pan and get that shaft in right.......and don't put the pan back on until you're SURE it is

 

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Just what hole DID it go in?

 

NKau

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bluevenom867 said:

Just what hole DID it go in?

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Sorry No, I was wondering the same thing actually.......

 

bryanrevans

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as I look down in to where the dist goes all I can see is gear teeth to the left with the shaft wedged in a left leaning position.

 

TT91

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yank the motor, try again.

 

bryanrevans

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Some how I managed to drop oil-pump down and get shaft out.I removed steering rack and dropped pan onto k frame.This allowed me just enough room to remove both 9/16 bolts holding up pump.
My question is can I drop NEW shaft down through dizzy hole.Will that rim that is up at top of shaft keep it from reaching pump?the reason I ask is with pan dropped down onto k frame I do not have enough room to put it up through bottom?????wewww

 

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That clip is on there to prevent the shaft from being pulled OUT of the pump when pulling out the dizzy. It won't allow you to slip it down through the top, unless you take that clip off, which I don't recommend; if you go to pull the dizzy sometime, or even pull out the priming tool, it could pull the shaft up and drop it down into the oil pan. Can you somehow lift the motor up enough to get the oil pan out, and get the shaft in the right way?

 

bryanrevans

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I got the 2 pump bolts out(not easy)with pan down its hanging cuzz I cant reach pick-up bolts.My next move is to loosen motor mount bolts and jack up motor by balancer alittle to angle shaft up in correctly.Im leavin dizz out while i do this...THIS TIME!!!!!!!

 

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The pump driveshaft goes in from the BOTTOM!! Stick it up through the hole (distributor) and then put the pump on. Once the driveshaft is in, and before you button everything up, get the priming tool and put it down in the hole and spin it by HAND to see if there is a slight drag. That should tell you if everything is cool.

I did this once in my car. The oil pump let go at 6 grand at the big end of the drag strip! It twisted the driveshaft so bad that it looked like a drillbit when it came out! It was very hard to do with the engine in the car. A couple of years later I rebuilt the motor and have had the motor out a couple of times. I know it sounds backwards, but it takes less time to pull the motor, change the pump, and put it back in. It took me a weekend to change the pump in the pan and it only takes me about 2 hours to pull the motor and 3 or so to put it back in.

Oh yeah, thanks MOBIL 1! After the pump went, the car still ran and made good oil pressure for 2 more years. When I rebuilt the motor, the bearings were like brand new!

 

bryanrevans

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How did oil get up to the heads?with out a oil pump???

 

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bryanrevans said:

How did oil get up to the heads?with out a oil pump???

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What he said.

 

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bryanrevans said:

I got the 2 pump bolts out(not easy)with pan down its hanging cuzz I cant reach pick-up bolts.My next move is to loosen motor mount bolts and jack up motor by balancer alittle to angle shaft up in correctly.Im leavin dizz out while i do this...THIS TIME!!!!!!!

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I would hesitate to jack the motor up by the balancer. If the balancer gets out of whack you'll be buying a new one of those to boot. Maybe its not an issue, but I would look for another way. Possibly using the engine hoist to lift the motor.

 

just4bob50

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my wife hates it when i put my rod in the wrong hole

 

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bryanrevans said:

I got the 2 pump bolts out(not easy)with pan down its hanging cuzz I cant reach pick-up bolts.My next move is to loosen motor mount bolts and jack up motor by balancer alittle to angle shaft up in correctly.Im leavin dizz out while i do this...THIS TIME!!!!!!!

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DO NOT jack the motor up by the balancer, very bad idea. Rent yourself a cherry picker, bolt it to the heads, and lift the motor out until you have enough room to bolt the the oil pump and driveshaft the proper way.

 

bryanrevans

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thanks everyone!!