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93GTosu · Aug 13, 2005

quick question that i'm sure ANY of you could answer....
i just got done changing the oil on my 93 gt and i got barely 4 qts out of it. This is my first time changing it by myself...i usually have a buddy with me when i do it but it was just me and my brother this time. now i didnt bother to change the filter...could that be another quart?? i thought we had 5??? i need to learn sometime

thanks

The Shape · Aug 13, 2005

Yep the other quart is in the filter.

HISSIN50 · Aug 13, 2005

An FL1A does hold about a quart.

88mustng · Aug 13, 2005

why would you not change the filter when you do an oil change, its only another 4 or 5 bucks???

bubba-dough · Aug 13, 2005

88mustng said:
why would you not change the filter when you do an oil change, its only another 4 or 5 bucks???

I agree. Always change the filter too, thats what cleans the contaminates from the oil. It probably breaks down before the oil does. If you don't change it, you will have 4 quarts clean and 1 quart dirty which = 5 quarts dirty...

Shakerhood · Aug 14, 2005

Not to sound mean, but did you remember to pull BOTH drain plugs?

Crzyhrse · Aug 14, 2005

^^^^^^Exactly. The other 1 quart is in the SECOND oil pan. They had to make two of them because of the transmission or something. When I bought my first Mustang, an '89 GT, the first time I changed the oil I drained the secondary pan. I was in a panic when only 1 quart of oil came out. WTF!!!! Grabbed the owners manual and it talked of the two drains.

wazazzle · Aug 14, 2005

last time i checked... oil changes on mustangs usually requires draining both sumps front and rear drain plugs and also the filter.

Shakerhood · Aug 14, 2005

Crzyhrse said:
^^^^^^Exactly. The other 1 quart is in the SECOND oil pan. They had to make two of them because of the transmission or something. When I bought my first Mustang, an '89 GT, the first time I changed the oil I drained the secondary pan. I was in a panic when only 1 quart of oil came out. WTF!!!! Grabbed the owners manual and it talked of the two drains.

I have to laugh because the last time I was at the Dealer I asked the new kid at the parts counter for drain plug gaskets for my car and he gave me 1, I told him there are 2 and he did not believe me and only wanted to give me the 1 gasket! I know he was going to go running into the service dept after I left, I would have paid money just to see his face when the techs told him there were 2 drain plugs!

raceguy13 · Aug 14, 2005

happens alot, what other cars use two plugs? Just shows not anybody can correctly change oil i guess.

HISSIN50 · Aug 14, 2005

Before everyone makes too much fun of the possible situation....... he said he got 4 quarts out and did not change the filter. Chances are that he did the front drain, otherwise he should have only been able to add about 3 quarts. That is, unless he has a bad dipstick from the factory and his 'full' reference point is off.

We have all made mistakes and not known things. No need to give a relatively new member a hard time - it just keeps them from coming back or feeling ok about posting questions.

Just my two cents.

Henceforward · Aug 14, 2005

Any car will burn just a little oil. You can't expect there to be 5 quarts in there after 3000+ miles if you don't top it off every once in a while.

DMAN302 · Aug 14, 2005

HISSIN50 said:
Before everyone makes too much fun of the possible situation....... he said he got 4 quarts out and did not change the filter. Chances are that he did the front drain, otherwise he should have only been able to add about 3 quarts. That is, unless he has a bad dipstick from the factory and his 'full' reference point is off.

We have all made mistakes and not known things. No need to give a relatively new member a hard time - it just keeps them from coming back or feeling ok about posting questions.

Just my two cents.

Was just going to say the exact same thing JT, good job.

Shakerhood · Aug 15, 2005

HISSIN50 said:
Before everyone makes too much fun of the possible situation....... he said he got 4 quarts out and did not change the filter. Chances are that he did the front drain, otherwise he should have only been able to add about 3 quarts. That is, unless he has a bad dipstick from the factory and his 'full' reference point is off.

We have all made mistakes and not known things. No need to give a relatively new member a hard time - it just keeps them from coming back or feeling ok about posting questions.

Just my two cents.

I hope this was not directed towards me as I was the first person to bring up the point of 2 drain plugs and I posted it without being mean as I would like to see people come back and be able to ask questions and I also would like to ask questions without being made fun of.

HISSIN50 · Aug 15, 2005

Shakerhood said:
I hope this was not directed towards me as I was the first person to bring up the point of 2 drain plugs and I posted it without being mean as I would like to see people come back and be able to ask questions and I also would like to ask questions without being made fun of.

Not at all! In fact, you were quite diplomatic and as polite as anyone on this thread. And you did bring up a good point. After it was mentioned once, I figured that to be sufficient (you might agree).

It seemed to me that people (not you!) were then beating your (and very related) point(s) to the end. We simply dont know enough ancillary info to make further remark, IMHO. I know I certainly would not have been able to say with certainty that 'this or that' is the cause.

Toss in there that a post with misleading info was given........

Then it seemed like another insinuation was made that this poor guy might not know how to change oil. Now, I very well could be not picking up the correct inflection of some of the posts (and if so, to you folks, I apologize), but if I could see it this way, perhaps others could too.

I just hate to see a downward spiral like that - I know when I joined people were pretty cool with me; had they not been, I would probably not be pestering everyone today.

As a related anecdote of my own (I enjoyed your story - I just went through something similar on a part for the '94. I was told it simply did not exist. LOL). When I first got the '88, I changed the oil. It was reading full after 4 quarts. Hmm. I tossed up a thread, and was politely told that the factory dipsticks can be off by a quart or so low. Cool. How else would I have known?

rd · Aug 15, 2005

Yep, the 5.0 engines in Mustang trim have two oil plugs, one right at the front of the pan, behind the front sway bar and on on the main sump in the rear, at the side.

Drain both, change the filter and put in 5 qts.

If you did not do it all, and the oil is full at the correct level, with a new filter, I would just drive on. Maybe change at 3000 miles vice 5k. Missing one oil change a couple thousand miles won't hurt anything. Running low on oil is real bad.
Or if you are hammering the car, I would get it all done.

Best thing is just jack it up, drain both plugs and change the filter, and fill er up!

I had my 351 Bronco for 9 months and two oil changes before I figured out it held 6 quarts! Ran fine for 6 more years.

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