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Cole's 1987 GT

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I guess it doesn't matter since I own the car now but I'm still curious the car is supposed to only have around 63k miles on it. Here is a link to the add where I bought it from with pictures. http://www.karmustang.com/product.php?productid=17180&cat=282&page=1 As you can see the paint-body is decent for how old it is I think anyway. There is no rips or anything on the interior just a coffee stain that I got out. But I look at stuff like how dirty the engine bay is and it makes me wonder. I bought an auto check but there is quite a long time between some of the mileage checks so I'm still not sure. I just thought I would ask to see what you guys thought. Thanks
1987 Ford Mustang GT

Calculated Owners: 5

  • Class: Sport Car - Touring
  • Engine: 5.0L V8 EFI
  • Country of Assembly: United States
  • Vehicle Age: 28 year(s)
  • Calculated Owners: 5
  • VIN: 1FABP42E3HF169237
  • Year : 1987
  • Make : Ford
  • Model: Mustang GT
  • Style/Body: Hatchback 2D



Odometer Check
Your vehicle checks out:
Last Reported Odometer: 62,720

Accident Check
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Your vehicle checks out: There have been no accidents reported to AutoCheck for this 1987 Ford Mustang GT (1FABP42E3HF169237). AutoCheck receives its accident data from government sources and independent agencies, and based on the information available to us, we have found that no accidents have been reported on this vehicle. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck.





Title and Problem Check
Your vehicle checks out: AutoCheck's database for this 1987 Ford Mustang GT (1FABP42E3HF169237) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems, and disqualifies the vehicle for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. Check the Vehicle Use and Event Check for reported accidents that can affect vehicle safety and value.







Odometer Check
Your vehicle checks out: AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 1987 Ford Mustang GT (1FABP42E3HF169237) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage.
0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported
27,817 03/28/1994
43,000 09/01/2004
116,000 01/23/2007 not included in rollback calculation
49,447 01/29/2007
62,426 07/27/2010
62,720 05/05/2014

Detailed Vehicle History

Calculated Owners: 5

Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.


Report Run Date:January 31, 2015 10:53:56 AM EST

Vehicle: 1987 Ford Mustang GT (1FABP42E3HF169237)

Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
03/28/1994 OH
27,817
Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV

04/11/1996 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

03/27/1997 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

03/30/1998 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

05/15/1999 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

05/02/2000 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

04/20/2001 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

06/04/2002 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

06/13/2003 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

06/29/2004 GROVE CITY, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

08/07/2004 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:2506870077)
CORRECTED TITLE

09/01/2004 WESTERVILLE, OH
43,000
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:2506917621)

09/04/2004 WESTERVILLE, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

06/16/2005 WESTERVILLE, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

05/26/2006 WESTERVILLE, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

01/23/2007 TUCSON, AZ
116,000
Independent Emission Source FAILED EMISSION INSPECTION

01/29/2007 REYNOLDSBURG, OH
49,447
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:2508456977)

01/29/2007 REYNOLDSBURG, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

07/21/2007 REYNOLDSBURG, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

11/04/2008 REYNOLDSBURG, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:2509575121)
DUPLICATE TITLE

11/04/2008 REYNOLDSBURG, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

09/30/2009 REYNOLDSBURG, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

07/27/2010 COLUMBUS, OH
62,426
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:2100805955)

07/29/2010 COLUMBUS, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

05/27/2011 WESTERVILLE, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

05/05/2014 GROVE CITY, OH
62,720
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:2512526517)

05/06/2014 GROVE CITY, OH

Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
 

hoopty5.0

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Here's my opinion on 'low mileage' foxes. Anyone that legitimately has one knows that it is low mileage, takes pride in that fact, and generally documents it very well.

Any other car is a straight guess, unless you can prove otherwise, which brings you back to option 1. My car has no proof whatsoever and appears to have had a rough life before I owned it. When asked about mileage, I generally reply, "quarter million or so."
 
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Cole's 1987 GT

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Yeah I really don't have any documentation other than the window sticker and build sheet. Just makes me wonder as everything on it is clean but the motor even the underbody has no rust and as you can see the car has lived in Ohio its entire life where they use plenty of salt in the winter.
 

89oem

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when the odometer rolls the 10k zero typically wont be perfectly centered, EDIT actually I looked at mine and take that back.... mine say 23xxxx and the 2 is perfect....
 
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wells1989

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My opinion
Obviously anything can be replaced or redone however things that would look different between 162k and 62k are drivers seat steering wheel Pedals. These are things that get worn now matter how well you treat her. Secondly you may know this bUT that car will have enamel paint if original. When you wax her you will get color on your rag. If your rag does not turn red it is not original paint. My guess for the engine bay is that those whom owned it just did not clean it. Some people do not take pride in the engine bay as particular as others. 62k engine bay could look very dirty. My car had 46k original when I bought it and did not look very good under the hood either. I have made great improvements with a little elbow grease.
 
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Cole's 1987 GT

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Yes it has the original paint when I wax the rag turns red. The pedals are not worn they all look pretty good and the drivers seat looks great no rips or tears at all. Thanks
 

wells1989

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Based on what I see and everything you say I am pretty confident you have a 63k car. Without restoration typically a 163k car would not be in the condition as yours. I am sure someone has the exception though.
 

NVERL8

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I can tell you I just got a 92 summer edition feature car with 4,900 miles on it my father in law bought new and sat in a barn under 2 covers since 94. My engine bay looked terrible. It's slowly getting up to par though......
 
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Cole's 1987 GT

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That's what I was hoping to hear as I paid for a 60k mile car. The paint and body are not perfect it has a couple dings-scratches and the back of the spoiler has about a 3 inch wide faded line most of the was across it not sure how that would of happend? But I have it most of the way gone. Thanks
 

wells1989

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Well enamel paint is great for removing scratches and fade because it is the same color the entire way through. Not like clear coat where scratches are always white. Just be careful because if you remove to much paint you will really end up with a dull spot.
 
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Cole's 1987 GT

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Any idea what I should use to get rid of the fade? About the only thing I have done is wax the crap out of it helped allot but I can still see it.
 

mikestang63

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if it is keeping you up at night, send off an oil sample. You'll find out if it has 62 or 162k miles on it. It will measure how much lead, copper, iron,aluminum, chrome etc are in your oil that would be from wear in piston and rings, bearings, camshaft, etc. They can also tell you if the oil has been regularly changed, what grade oil, how dirty it is. if it is contaminated, and other parameters. I've used this company before with good results.

Blackstone Labs
 

A5literMan

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Cole's 1987 GT said:
Any idea what I should use to get rid of the fade? About the only thing I have done is wax the crap out of it helped allot but I can still see it.
Click to expand...
Hand wax or buffing wheel?
 
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Cole's 1987 GT

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Just by hand
 
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Cole's 1987 GT

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Never thought of an oil test might have to give that a try thanks.
 

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Cole's 1987 GT said:
Never thought of an oil test might have to give that a try thanks.
Click to expand...

That's why they pay me the big bucks here. lol Last time I did it, it was like $25 bucks but took a few weeks.
 
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wells1989

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My car had sever acid rain when I bought it. I cleaned it really well and used one of those three or four stage clean polish wax kits. Clay bars work great also however this won't help your faded spot. If all else fail a good painter can match it perfect. Some of my panels had to be re sprayed after a minor fender bender and you can't tell. If you do decide to repaint make sure the paint guy knows your being picky and that you want the clear sanded very good to remove all the orange peel/fisheyes. Enamel paint is very smooth as where clear coat can have a slight texture unless sanded very smooth.
 
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Cole's 1987 GT

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I've been thinking about having the car respayed and fixing the plastic door trim pieces. They are starting to bow out a little on the ends. For now I will try using one of thoes several stage wax kits should look pretty good. Thanks
 

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What's with the line in the carfax that says 116k and not included in odometer rollback calculation?

From 2007, with 43k soon after.


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Cole's 1987 GT

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Its from where it was taken out to AZ and had an emissions test done and they must of put that not sure why? The carfax does not show it but as you can see auto check does.
 
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