that or a blown strut rod bushing, i dont see how the upper control arm could cause it to drift like that.mustangdave said:Pbum5, why do you think your upper control arms are bad? Usually if a car is pulling really hard to one side, it's a bad control valve on the power steering. Do you have p.s.?
mustangdave said:Pbum5, why do you think your upper control arms are bad? Usually if a car is pulling really hard to one side, it's a bad control valve on the power steering. Do you have p.s.?
Pbum5 said:I took it into get it aligned and the said the couldnt because
The holes where A arm meets the shaft have oblonged from wear.
They are also almost 40 years old. A little freshen up couldnt hurt.
65fastback2+2 said:i think they are just saying that, take it to an old known shop that knows how to do old cars
Pbum5 said:If they can align it or not is one thing. But the holes have oblonged. I have looked at it myself..
Pbum5 said:If they can align it or not is one thing. But the holes have oblonged. I have looked at it myself..
65fastback2+2 said:what holes???
65fastback2+2 said:i dont see how you could do it and NOT have to do that fix. Mine has like 3/4" of shims, theres no getting around that, and my frame was checked against being bent too....
67GTA-FB429 said:So are you saying that EVERY 67/68 that has the Shelby drop done MUST have shims put in to align the front end after the drop?
I am confused because I did the drop and 620 coils and I did not need shims.
I am not trying to start a fight I just want to make sure my car is safe.
What kind of spindles are on his car? Couldn't that make the LCA seem to be longer?Ronstang said:Your car is perfectly safe, if it aligned properly then all is well. He also used 1 inch drop springs so maybe that contributed to the need for shims. He is young and assumes that just because his car needed them that all will need them but I do not believe that to be the case because I have never heard others with 67/67 vehicles talk about the need for shims after the Shelby drop. It is almost like his lower control arms are too long. I really do not know what is going on but it was IMPOSSIBLE to align HIS car without the shims.
Jester67 said:What kind of spindles are on his car? Couldn't that make the LCA seem to be longer?
Ronstang said:You need new control arms if the holes where the shaft nuts screw in are oblong and worn out in yours.....there really is no way around it. Check American Pony because they have factory new arms for $69 and you need to specify the 4 rivet ball joint ones also. This is cheap enough to get you back on the road and you can get fancy parts later on when you do a full restore of the car.
Pbum5 said:Maybe I will take that route for now. Why does it mater if they are 3 or 4 rivets if they are being replaced? Is one better than the other?
HistoricMustang said:Pbum5, sorry for delay in responding.
I have never had an issue with the ball joints - another one of those rumors put out by the big boys to get you to buy stuff to correct things on the other stuff you bought. It is kind of a "Catch 22" situation. Only they are "catching" your money.
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Ok, IMHO, you should try to make a decision about the use of your car for the future. You need a plan. You say you're gonna eventually do a "full restoration" but what does that mean? Do you intend to do a full custom suspension from TCP, Maier, or GW, or just selectively use certain components in combination with some original type components? This will make a huge difference in whether you should do the Shelby drop now or wait. It can also help you save serious money over time.Pbum5 said:What should I do?
... I plan on someday doing a full restoration of my car.... But for now and the next few years or so I would like to make it drivable. When I do decide to do the ground up resto, I plan on going with an upgraded front suspension either from TCP, Maier, or Global West. Here is my question. Should I buy the “upgraded” suspension now, and remove it and put it back when I do the resto, or should I just get a $300 kit to hold me over for a few years and make it safely drivable.
Ronstang said:Your car is perfectly safe, if it aligned properly then all is well. He also used 1 inch drop springs so maybe that contributed to the need for shims. He is young and assumes that just because his car needed them that all will need them but I do not believe that to be the case because I have never heard others with 67/67 vehicles talk about the need for shims after the Shelby drop. It is almost like his lower control arms are too long. I really do not know what is going on but it was IMPOSSIBLE to align HIS car without the shims.
It's nice to see someone bring this up. I have the same situation on my '70, but I shimmed the ball joints and did a 2" drop. I've been considering fabbing a slightly shorter and adjustable length lower arm to avoid requiring shimming the upper arm. That way I could also do the Boss 302 mod, eliminating the lower arm adjustment point that can move under hard use.Ronstang said:Your car is perfectly safe, if it aligned properly then all is well. He also used 1 inch drop springs so maybe that contributed to the need for shims. He is young and assumes that just because his car needed them that all will need them but I do not believe that to be the case because I have never heard others with 67/67 vehicles talk about the need for shims after the Shelby drop. It is almost like his lower control arms are too long. I really do not know what is going on but it was IMPOSSIBLE to align HIS car without the shims.
DarkBuddha said:Wow, this thread went all wacky quick... Back to the original question:
Ok, IMHO, you should try to make a decision about the use of your car for the future. You need a plan. You say you're gonna eventually do a "full restoration" but what does that mean? Do you intend to do a full custom suspension from TCP, Maier, or GW, or just selectively use certain components in combination with some original type components? This will make a huge difference in whether you should do the Shelby drop now or wait. It can also help you save serious money over time.
Hope this helps...
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