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Hello all!
My fiancé is off serving in Iraq and for reasons unbenknownst to me, he's left his two mustangs, which are his pride and joy, under my care. One of them is a '92 5.0 LX hatchback with a stickshift transmission. The other is a '66 289 automatic. My job is to just run them every once in a while (I normally just drive our Focus). You'd think I couldn't screw that up, right? Well somehow I did.

My problem is with the '66. I decided that it's time to run it for a while because it hasn't run in quite some time. But now I've been faced with two problems that might seem rather silly to ya'll but really I can't solve them!

When I tried to start it up I twisted the key around a little and somehow the keyhole came out! I've managed to fit it back after a little tinkering, but when I turn the key there doesn't seem to be any response. How do I fix that? Is the keyhole supposed to be detachable like that?

My second problem is that I can't seem to lock the door. I got it open just fine, but now it doesn't seem to want to lock from the outside. I turn the key really hard but it seems impossible. Do I simply not have the strength to lock it or is there something else I'm supposed to do?

Any help is much appreciated. I would talk to my fiancé but he can only call me at certain times and we don't have much time when he does call.
 

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First, it sounds like the ignition switch lock cylinder is faulty - just how "faulty" it is, I don't know, so I'm not going to try to diagnose sight unseen. I could be possible that it's simply not seated all the way into it's housing; but I question how it fell out in the first place, as it doesn't readily happen. You have to turn the key to "accessory" and shove a paper clip into the teeney hole below the openting for the key to remove it. If it just fell out, I'm thinking it's time for a new cylinder or a hole new switch.

As for the door lock:
If I'm not mistaken, on the early Stangs the ignition uses a different key from the door locks. If this is the case (and you keep trying to "force it") you may find the key "gets a lot shorter" and nothing fits in that lock! I don't mean to sound like one or the other of us is an idiot; but caught myself doing that the other day on one of the older GM trucks in our "company fleet". After 18 years of driving pre-1995 GM trucks at home and work; I'm back to driving newer Fords (and my wife's 02 Ram 1500) in both places. So, I completely forgot that, even though the GM ignition key fits in the door lock, it won't actually unlock anything!

Yeah, I felt stupid; but only that I'd think I should know better. If you're used to driving newer vehicles from any manufacturer; you may not have had that experieince with two different keys for ignition and door.....
 

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you can try putting the ignition cylinder back in by turning the key to accessory, putting a paper clip in, then turning it back. it might take some finiking around with, but you'll get it.

and it's pretty uncommon to have the ignition a different cut key than the door lock, unless it was broken into or something and replaced. if all else fails, try wiggling the lock up and down with your fingers a few times, then try the key.

good luck!
 

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enferno said:
...and it's pretty uncommon to have the ignition a different cut key than the door lock, unless it was broken into or something and replaced...
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That's news to me. My '65, '68 and '88 Mustangs all use a different door and ignition key. So did my '70 Ranchero, '68 Fairlane and '69 F150. I assume all older Fords use a different key for doors since I've never seen one that didn't.
 

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Actually, my door & ignition keys are the same on both my 67's. The trunk keys are the ones that are different.

-Chelle
 

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zookeeper said:
That's news to me. My '65, '68 and '88 Mustangs all use a different door and ignition key. So did my '70 Ranchero, '68 Fairlane and '69 F150. I assume all older Fords use a different key for doors since I've never seen one that didn't.
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just the opposite for me actually. i've only seen one mustang that came through the shop that had different ignition/door keys, and it was because it was broken in to and they busted the tumbler on the ignition.

strange
 

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My bad. I must've had too long a day at work. I misread it as having one key fitting everything, including the trunk. I better get some sleep before I post more stupidity...
 

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zookeeper said:
My bad. I must've had too long a day at work. I misread it as having one key fitting everything, including the trunk. I better get some sleep before I post more stupidity...
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it's all cool brotherman

the point i was trying to make is that it wasn't stock, and it's not a normal modification is all.
 

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t_chelle16 said:
Actually, my door & egnition keys are the same on both my 67's. The trunk keys are the ones that are different.

-Chelle
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Ditto for the '65-'66 years. If the locks haven't been oiled in many moons they key will be a bear to turn or it may not turn at all if the wafers in the lock don't move freely. Shoot some WD-40 in them, push the key in and out several times and then give it a go.
 

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t_chelle16 said:
Actually, my door & egnition keys are the same on both my 67's. The trunk keys are the ones that are different.

-Chelle
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Ditto
 

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Okay, I stand corrected! Maybe the "you need two keys" deal only went into play after they went to the double-sided keys? I remember my Dad's 71 LTD (bought new) and my '73 Gran Torino used two keys - the "square-head" key for the ignition and the "round head" key for doors, trunk and glovebox. My '72 F100 used the square-head for both doors and ignition, and the round-head for the glove box and the "underbed-tool-storage box" in the pass-side fenderwall (ahead of the back tire). I thought the earlier Fords did the same thing; like Dodge and GM did up until about ninty-something?
 

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Maybe either the ignition or door lock has been changed at some point?

For the ignition issue, time to get that looked at, or take off the battery & let the car sit for long term storage.

Do we have any bretheren here close by who can help her?
 

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Sorry, ain't been in Ol Virginny in almost 10 years.........I take it you're somewhere abouts Norfolk?








***EDIT*** TO THE FIANCE...: Marry this girl A.S.A.P.! Any woman who will take care of your Mustangs while you are overseas serving your country is definately a "KEEPER"!!!
 

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65stanger said:
Sorry, ain't been in Ol Virginny in almost 10 years.......
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Outstanding warrant?
 

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Outstanding warrant?
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Something about abusing Blue Fur........
 

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Outstanding warrant?
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Irate hubby
 

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Irate hubby
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Yours?
 

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We better stop this Hi-Jack (though it's getting pretty funny), and get back to our damsel in distress.....

SG07 - Any updates?
 
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