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15 Year Member
- Mar 7, 2002
Waaait wait wait wait wait. Wait. Usually i'm on board defending the II, but if you're gonna sit here in front of God and everyone else and say the II was a better car than the Fox, then you sir are absolutely insane. And if God was here he'd tell you the same. The Fox created an entire aftermarket, what has the II done for the automotive industry? And don't tell me it got us through a gas crisis and we wouldn't have a Mustang today if not for the II because that's BS. Ford kept making Mustangs because Mustangs sell. The Mustang is the car equivalent to what the F150 is for trucks. Ford will stop making the Mustang when Chevy stops making the Corvette, which will be sometime around never. The Mayans will come back and reclaim Earth first.
Re-read what I wrote numb-nuts. I said what the introduced to replace the II was worse ('79-81 foxes were beyond awful), and that it took them ten years to get it right (circa 1989 and the MAF going nationwide, without which, there would've been NO big aftermarket, it'd be like the GM TPI 305/350 aftermarket). The '79-81 foxes were absolutely pathetic. The '82-84 cars were almost as bad, though marketing hype and misguided nostalgia peg the '82 as the "return to performance" when it was all of 0.1 seconds faster in the 1/4 than the fastest II stock-for-stock. (Put matching tires on the II and it'd probably win considering the contact patch on the stock tires of a II was about the size of a business card!) Both 1985 and 1986 brought huge steps forward in all departments, with the 7.5 rear axle being ditched for the 8.8 behind the V8s, the CPI, then MPFI systems coming along in those two years, and then the improvements to the bottom-end of the engine for '87, MAF cars for Cali in '88, and then finally, in '89, the true birth of fox-body performance, nationwide MAF.
Like I said, what replaced the II was worse (255ci V8s and 200ci I6s that can both be outrun by a 2.3 car with a good driver anyone? A draw-through turbo 2.3 that detonates, catches fire, etc? The SROD transmission? Really?) and then Ford spent ten years correcting it to get it right.
Learn to read homie.
Oh, and Chevy did stop making the Vette, there was no 1983 model.
While I'm at it, you're right, the gas crisis had nothing to do with the Mustang continuing past 1973. The II was on the drawing boards in 1970, was approved by '72, and in production during '73. The fact that the gas crisis happened saved the II and the Mustang in general because of it, but it was a happy accident, it wasn't any genius planning, hell, that's why I didn't bring that little bit of bull up.
It's okay Bill, let the gayness out, we won't judge you.Sometimes I wanna kiss you. With tongue.