i have the pypes violators with the stock cated h-pipes and i love the sound, you dont realy hear much inside the car only under power and on the highway cruzing is quiet. now ii will like to know if any one has the violators with a off road h ro x pipe (how loud will it get?) i want to install some jba shortys with the pypes O/R x-pipe but im wondering how loud it will get? i want is a bit louded but i dont want the cops to be on my ass. can any one help me? thanks for any info