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Anyone know anything about the quality of this kit:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GERM...tegoryZ36476QQihZ020QQitemZ300122749382QQrdZ1

They look really good but I'm just getting into the HID market so I know wittle
 

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they look like they may be fine but i would just order them from american muscle or stangmods
 

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http://www.cqlight.ca/

order from here it is a trusted company in all my readings on the Audi forums
 
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HID bulbs in the stock Mustang halogen reflector headlight=glare. Don't do it.
 

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san~man said:
HID bulbs in the stock Mustang halogen reflector headlight=glare. Don't do it.
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san~man said:
HID bulbs in the stock Mustang halogen reflector headlight=glare. Don't do it.
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They do glare, but honestly its not that bad. I will admit that the cutoff line of the lighting looks pretty sh**ty though. I had to aim mine down because there are hot spots in the middle that will shine in peoples rear veiws. If the color of the HID's didnt look 100% better than the halogens, I would just go back to silverstars.
 

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san~man said:
HID bulbs in the stock Mustang halogen reflector headlight=glare. Don't do it.
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no need to listen to this. They can be adjusted so the glare is not bad teamed with a good kit. There problem is very very minimal if it could even be considered a problem.
 

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Then you got the legal issues. HID's in a Mustang is not legal at all, even with a kit that has a functional high beam.
 

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Then you got the legal issues. HID's in a Mustang is not legal at all, even with a kit that has a functional high beam.
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are you seriously bringing up that aspect?
may i ask what exhaust you are running????
 

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I have only had someone flash me once while ive had my HID's installed & it was a ricer that honestly I think was flashing me because he thought the HID's were sick. I went home later & aimed them down a little bit just to be safe. I actually had my buddy drive my car towards me & it didnt seem to blind me @ all. What about the lifted 4x4 trucks, even with stock lighting they blind the hell out of you & not to mention that a ton of em are running HID's now.
 

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1992 2.3LX said:
are you seriously bringing up that aspect?
may i ask what exhaust you are running????
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Modifying exhaust and modifying safety equipment are two different things. If he wants to run HID's he needs to know the consequences. It's like the guys who black their taillights out with tint. If they are ever rear ended, they could be found technically responsible. Same goes with glare from illegal headlights.

So yes, i seriously brought up that aspect.
 

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I have only had someone flash me once while ive had my HID's installed & it was a ricer that honestly I think was flashing me because he thought the HID's were sick. I went home later & aimed them down a little bit just to be safe. I actually had my buddy drive my car towards me & it didnt seem to blind me @ all. What about the lifted 4x4 trucks, even with stock lighting they blind the hell out of you & not to mention that a ton of em are running HID's now.
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The ricers are the worse offenders where i live. Most don't even bother to aim them. I think i drive by 10-15 a night with poorly aimed HID kits that blind me until i pass. The trucks are even worse as their headlights are even higher up. My friends get tickets for them all the time.

I dunno, maybe it's because i'm an engineer, but i hate things not working properly or how they are designed. If you can make a halogen headlight with an HID retrofit project a cut-off line like this, then maybe i'll give them some credibility. But for now, i'm anti-HID's
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
The ricers are the worse offenders where i live. Most don't even bother to aim them. I think i drive by 10-15 a night with poorly aimed HID kits that blind me until i pass. The trucks are even worse as their headlights are even higher up. My friends get tickets for them all the time.

I dunno, maybe it's because i'm an engineer, but i hate things not working properly or how they are designed. If you can make a halogen headlight with an HID retrofit project a cut-off line like this, then maybe i'll give them some credibility. But for now, i'm anti-HID's
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Like I said, the cutoff line on my HID's is horrible, but hey they look alot better than halogen, so i will keep them until some cop with too much time on his hands decides to give me a ticket. I guess Im due for one anyway since I have no front plate, dark tint all the way around, illegal HID's, illegal exhaust, non carb legal CAI, a red mustang, & I love to drive aggressive on the street. (Knock on wood)
 

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1992 2.3LX said:
are you seriously bringing up that aspect?
may i ask what exhaust you are running????
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i have HID's in mine and i never get flashed. i guess i'm the ultimate A-hole b/c i have HID's and tinted tail!
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
I dunno, maybe it's because i'm an engineer, but i hate things not working properly or how they are designed. If you can make a halogen headlight with an HID retrofit project a cut-off line like this, then maybe i'll give them some credibility. But for now, i'm anti-HID's
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Here's my cutoff line from my project. I'm about 1/2 done with one side:



Keep this discussion CIVIL everyone.

No matter what you think, there IS glare. Just because you don't get flashed doesn't mean that your lights aren't blinding on-coming traffic.
 
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1992 2.3LX said:
no need to listen to this. They can be adjusted so the glare is not bad teamed with a good kit. There problem is very very minimal if it could even be considered a problem.
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See my previous post. No matter what you do, you still get glare. The halogen reflector was not made to house an HID bulb. Drive down a dark street or alley, and see how much of the surroundings above 3-4 feet or so are illuminated....that's the glare everyone else sees when halogen+HIDs are used.
 

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See my previous post. No matter what you do, you still get glare. The halogen reflector was not made to house an HID bulb. Drive down a dark street or alley, and see how much of the surroundings above 3-4 feet or so are illuminated....that's the glare everyone else sees when halogen+HIDs are used.
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i made no mention of getting rid of the glare. when done right it can be minimalized. it's no worse than poorly aimed halogen lights.
 
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1992 2.3LX said:
i made no mention of getting rid of the glare. when done right it can be minimalized. it's no worse than poorly aimed halogen lights.
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It is. You can't compare the light output in lumens between the two. At first, I thought the same way and had a PNP kit installed. Because they produce so much more light output, the glare is worse than a halogen bulb.

Do you currently have a PNP HID kit?
 
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its so debatable on what to do cuz it seems everyone is 50/50 with HID's and no projectors. the other option is just some really bright custom fogs. i had round ones mounted in the center, recessed under the bumper. just werent bright enough, even when u were staring at them.
 

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It is. You can't compare the light output in lumens between the two. At first, I thought the same way and had a PNP kit installed. Because they produce so much more light output, the glare is worse than a halogen bulb.

Do you currently have a PNP HID kit?
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nope. car needs to be fast prior to the looks.

Though I have experience with them in projectors and standard halogen housings. If you buy a crap kit and don't worry about aiming them yes the glare is far worse. But if you buy a good kit that actually has cut offs and you aim them properly the glare is not bad at all.
 
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