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reg subframes vs. full length

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matsm21

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will I notice a difference between the two with a daily driven vert?
 

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i think verts already have subframes? full length are what everyone says to get.
 
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Full Length
 

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Where is the best place for connectors? are they weld in or bolt on?
 

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People recommend welding.
 
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definately a noticible difference though?
 

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matsm21 said:
definately a noticible difference though?
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I've read here on StangNet that for a vert it's VERY noticable. I have a coupe and I'm probably going to get full lengths welded in sometime this winter... Atleast, I'd like to.

I hope some vert owners with sfc's can come and confirm...
 
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Vert subframes are supposedly worthless and nearly non existant, not just by word of mouth but by magazines such as MM&FF, R&T, etc

I cant tell you the difference though because im welding some full lengths in around Christmas (although there will definitely be a difference for you, plus the fact you are adding to the life of your car)
 

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there is a huge difference with full length. and welding is recommended for any chassis stiffening. go with the full's
 

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pay the extra buck for the full lengths.
 

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I have full length KB weldins on my 1998GT vert, and I love them. They do make a noticeable difference. I would also suggest lowering the car to change the stance. It looks much better to me lower. Just my .02!
 

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i have regular length kb subframes welded in...they make it a bit stiffer, stock is crap
 

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My bullitt stock came with the same lame tin foil braces that the verts come with. They are useless.

regular SFC's connect the frame rails, but connect in such a short area that their strength is much lower than a full length.

Considering how cheap good full length braces are, go for it.
I can get you a good price on the Steeda's

Will you notice the difference? Hell yeah!
After welding in my full lengths, it was night and day.

Think of them like a shifter or gears. Sure, your car came with them. Were they any good? There's a reason everyone has these things, because the work!
 
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yea, cause I had gotten a great deal on the KB supersubs, so they are in my garage, but I was thinkin of sellin them and getting full length
 

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Factory subs are worthless. I went with the Maximum Motorsport FL.
Also,they serve as good "jacking points".
02 GT conv
 
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