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School me on fan clutches

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svtpower

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My fan runs all the time. The second I start up the car that sucker is spinning. Is that normal? I thought there was some kind of temp clutch in it that only made it catch and spin at a given temp.

Sorry for the dumb question, it's been awhile since I had a 5.0...
 
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When the fluid is cold in them, like when you first start the car, they'll be engaged until the fluid warms up a little. Normal. An easy way to check, is to try and spin the fan by hand. It should spin, but not more than a turn or two when the engine is off.
 
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hmm

With the car off and cold, when I try to spin the fan by hand, I get it to move about an inch or so in either direction before I get resistance, that is it.

As soon as I start the car up, it's on full blast and as far as I can tell, never goes off.
 
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ditch the stock fan and buy an electric fan, you'll gain power with it
 

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svtpower said:
With the car off and cold, when I try to spin the fan by hand, I get it to move about an inch or so in either direction before I get resistance, that is it.

As soon as I start the car up, it's on full blast and as far as I can tell, never goes off.
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So it's working correctly then. It always spins.
After it warms up , it spins a little more freely.
 
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oh

Oh ok because when I read:

To tell if a fan clutch is failing, use these common symptoms.

* The fan clutch locks up, thereby spinning at the same RPM as the water pump. This is obvious by increased fan noise and reduced fuel efficiency. You can test this by grabbing the fan with the engine OFF and trying to turn the fan. If there is excessive resistance, or you cannot spin the fan, the fan clutch should be replaced.
* The fan clutch will not engage and fails to turn the fan. The fan may still spin, but only as a result of centrifugal force from the already spinning pump. If you try to spin the fan with the engine OFF, the fan will spin freely with virtually no resistance. Replace the fan clutch.
* The fan clutch explodes. This is usually caused by severe bearing failure. Fan and fan clutch parts will contact and damage the hood and other under hood engine components (belts, hoses, battery, wiring, radiator, etc.) NOTE: This is almost always due to vehicle owner "laziness" in that one of the two items above had already occurred and were ignored or not periodically inspected.

Taken from http://www.centuryperformance.com/coolingsys.asp (google search)

It made me think mine was bad.
 

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The old rule is that it should freely spin when the engine is off and the engine is cold.
When warmed up (and the engine is shut off), the fan should have greater resistance. I generally get a half turn or less out of it with a decent spin (edit: this is when the clutch itself is hot).

It has a bimetallic spring which regulates silicone fluid inside the hub (viscous coupling). If the silicone leaks out (noted as dirty oil around the hub), this is an indication that it's on the outs.

Good luck.
 
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My fan clutch spins a lot louder when the engine is dead cold than it does once it's fully warmed up. I don't know if that's normal or not, it's suposedly a year old (bought it used)... my old Blazer with a clutch fan did the same thing though.

My original fan clutch in the Stang was really erattic so who knows if I've ever had a properly functioning clutch fan on any of my cars...
 

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I always thought the clutch in a fan worked like this:

Engine spinning slowly, the fan grabs and spins.
Engine spinning at higher RPM's and the clutch 'slips'.

See, you learn something new every day!
 
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The fan will rotate full-time. The speed at which it rotates is determined by how much the clutch hub is engaged which is directly proportional to the engine temp. When it does fully lock-up, it will be a 1:1 ratio of the water pump speed. At this point it will basically sound like a Mack truck as I like to call it.

Easy way to tell if it is working correctly is if you have ever heard this sound (you will have if you drive a car with one in the summer and the A/C blowing for sure), then it will sound like this all the time including when the engine is first started and it is cold. It should only make that sound normally when the engine temp becomes hot enough, but the fan will always turn with the water pump at a variable slip ratio until lock-up occurs.
 
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