because lawyers cost money, and since the club is having to goto court to defend its position, they need a good lawyer. preferably a team of them because you know that shelby is going to be loaded for bear. i think shelby's lawyers are going to argue that any and all papers created and published by saac were done so as part of a licensing agreement with shelby, and that shelby is the true owner of the documents, and not saac.
This is a subject where I should and am biting my tongue. Most of you know me and my SAAC status.
I'm loyal to SAAC & Kopec. I'm not giving up 25 years. It's always been about the club, the old cars, and conventions.
I'm very anti-Modern Shelby (Note the word MODERN) - It's ALL about the money. There's alot more, but I'm not going there.
Drop a bomb on that part of Vegas.
I'm loyal to SAAC & Kopec. I'm not giving up 25 years. It's always been about the club, the old cars, and conventions.
I'm very anti-Modern Shelby (Note the word MODERN) - It's ALL about the money. There's alot more, but I'm not going there.
Drop a bomb on that part of Vegas.
that rich-ass SOB is really pissing me off lately, he doesn't need the money, unless he finally gave it all away to the heart fund, but that's his problem not SAAC's problem. i propose that if he wins the suit that SAAC should burn all the documentation have and walk away. sad to say that wouldn't help the value of the cars any but it could be far better for them than to allow those documents to fall into corporate hands.
as far as i'm concerned Shelby has no rights to any of that information, he has the original documenatation on these cars from when they were built and that is all he is entitled to.
someone in the legal system has to put a stop to this BS by ford and shelby, trademarks should only be allowed to cover certain things and not have absolute control over everything from clubs to aftermarket vendors, maybe parts but even that is a big maybe.
as far as i'm concerned Shelby has no rights to any of that information, he has the original documenatation on these cars from when they were built and that is all he is entitled to.
someone in the legal system has to put a stop to this BS by ford and shelby, trademarks should only be allowed to cover certain things and not have absolute control over everything from clubs to aftermarket vendors, maybe parts but even that is a big maybe.
If Ford and Shelby are so committed to the hobby and the older classics why aren't they supporting them with parts? Sure they license them but somebody else has to take the initiative and all of the financial risk while they just take a cut of the profit.
I used to have respect for Shelby, I even named my daughter Shelby because of the Cobra's, but as far as I'm now concerned he can kiss my a$$.
I wonder if Shelby is this protective over his Chrysler cars? I'm guessing not since they aren't selling tons of $$ like his Mustangs and Cobras. Anybody remember the Shelby Series I? I didn't think so.
I used to have respect for Shelby, I even named my daughter Shelby because of the Cobra's, but as far as I'm now concerned he can kiss my a$$.
I wonder if Shelby is this protective over his Chrysler cars? I'm guessing not since they aren't selling tons of $$ like his Mustangs and Cobras. Anybody remember the Shelby Series I? I didn't think so.
True dat. Foose is still young though, and has a ways to go before becoming senile. Time will tell. hehe
I don't know all the details yet, it's really muddy currently.
Shelby and that band of (comment deleted by myself for reasons I won't say) from his curent company only respond to money, and are legendary for making promises.
While on the surfce it's a great idea, the execution of this whole fiasco is a clusterf***.
The Ol' Shicken-choker should have just let Lane & Elliot start & run the website /club independant of SAAC & work together with them, not deal with it at a corporate level.
Just look at what's happened. Nothing but bad press, bad feelings, mis-information, the stuff that quickly destroys legends, companies, reputations, fans, and fun.
As I have said to my contact deep within Ford, "maybe it's time to sell everything Ford, and get another Hurst/Olds. At least George Hurst is long dead, Oldsmobile is dead, and nobody is fighting over the cars".
Sigh, and I must say the following:
What I have said on this thread is MY OWN OPINION.
Gotta say that for any lawyers lurking.
Shelby and that band of (comment deleted by myself for reasons I won't say) from his curent company only respond to money, and are legendary for making promises.
While on the surfce it's a great idea, the execution of this whole fiasco is a clusterf***.
The Ol' Shicken-choker should have just let Lane & Elliot start & run the website /club independant of SAAC & work together with them, not deal with it at a corporate level.
Just look at what's happened. Nothing but bad press, bad feelings, mis-information, the stuff that quickly destroys legends, companies, reputations, fans, and fun.
As I have said to my contact deep within Ford, "maybe it's time to sell everything Ford, and get another Hurst/Olds. At least George Hurst is long dead, Oldsmobile is dead, and nobody is fighting over the cars".
Sigh, and I must say the following:
What I have said on this thread is MY OWN OPINION.
Gotta say that for any lawyers lurking.
This is what happens when you make a Man think he is more important then he is. He has only built one car in his career and it was a failure. He puts his name on someone else design and people pay more for it. Now who is at fault. You are the person who pays for a car with his name and pays a crazy price for something that has a higher value because you made him to be of value. Everyone that owns a Shelby makes a killing on his name when you go to sell the car but then you fault him for not wanting another return on his name. You would want the same that he wants if it was your name on the car.
and which car is it that he built that was a failure? the cobra? sorry that one was a winner. the GT-350/500? hmmm nope winner again. maybe the toyotas that he built? not really, even though they are not publicised. the olds project he worked on? nope that was the fault of GM. the viper? nope success there also. maybe it was when he was selling goodyear tires? nope. how about when he was a driver in the 50's? nope he was quite successful racing also as a driver.
as for faulting him for wanting to make a profit, and pritect his name, no problem there. if he can make a ton of money, i say more power to him. he wants to protect the shelby american name, i say great. trade marks need to be protected. the problem comes in when he decides that a company or a club that has done well by shelby, like the shelby american automobile club that mr kopec runs, needs to be shut down, or at least crippled because shelby has become eccentric in his old age. or to prevent the sale of shelby american parts to people who dont own shelby cars, that is wrong. it is like when harley davidson tried to trade mark the sound of their engines, fortunately the courts saw through the ruse, to prevent other bike manufacturers from building V-twin engines despite the fact that indian actually built the first 44.5 degree V-twin design that harley made famous.
exactly. i think he's just trying to amass as much as wealth as possible before the end