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Dan_Soprano

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Badstang00 said:
You can't argue with stainless steel and that awesome sound either, especially for the price. SLP can go get F'ed in the A!!

-Mike
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I heard you love getting F'ed in the A!!!!!!!!!!!
 

BadVoodoo

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Dan_Soprano said:
I heard you love getting F'ed in the A!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow, I think I just got served! Now it's ON, B-I-T-C-H!!!!

-Mike
 

gaslight

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Badstang00 said:
You act like you don't care about my rim!

-Mike
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oh, I care about your rim. Especially when its all lubed up and winking at me.
 

gaslight

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cold96snake said:
Why is it that the 5.0's all got such high Tq #'s in relation to their hp? That asian guy (JONJON)at the other dyno day had hp about 10 under mine but his tourque was way above mine at 290 something also. I think that I understand the principles of torque vs. hp, but I don't get how they could be that far apart (over 100 for Brian).
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as stated many times before displacement helps. Big block motors ususal have tons of torque and lazy with the HP at times.
In my case I think the combination of a long runner intake and a 1" spacer to go with it held me back in HP but helped the torque. It would make a nice comparison to switch to a short runner intake and see what happens. Most likely the HP would go up while the torque would drop a bit. The peaks would also move up the RPM curve a bit.
 

gaslight

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Thankfully Chris used my camcorder and showed the 549 on the computer screen. That was awesome. I have some nice footage of the damage to his alt and it going on the wrecker. Now we can say Chris has a trailer queen.
Yes Mike I have footage of your damaged rim(I told you I was big for you).

I do have to say that 549rwtq is a scary number. That is tran. wrecking, axel snaping, and torque box damaging power
 

Dan_Soprano

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gaslight said:
oh, I care about your rim. Especially when its all lubed up and winking at me.
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Venom351R

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Badstang00 said:
Wow, I think I just got served! Now it's ON, B-I-T-C-H!!!!

-Mike
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Noo Its off.....
 

Dan_Soprano

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Striped5.0 said:
Noo Its off.....
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bro, do you ever sleep?
 

cold96snake

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Geez, sorry about chris's car and mike's rim. Forgot to mention it before.

If the other Mike picked up 20 rwhp w/ his x pipe, maybe that will be my next mod instead of the shifter.

Back to the topic of hp vs. tq . Is my basic understanding of it correct? Torque measures the amount of power there is to turn the wheels and hp measures the amount of power produced over time. In other words if a car has high torque #'s it will accelerate quickly but reach it's peak quickly also, and if a car has a lower tq # but a high hp # it will accelerate a little slower but for a longer period of time and peak at a higher speed? I know there is more to it, but simply put is that right? Also, isn't torque less affected by the amount of weight it's pushing?
I feel like such a dummy.
Also, anyone know what the 5.7L ZO6's put down for TQ #'s if displacement is key?
 

CRASH7772

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cold96snake said:
Also, anyone know what the 5.7L ZO6's put down for TQ #'s if displacement is key?
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From the dyno shop we went to they were putting down 350tq and 360hp.
 

ironheart1

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cold96snake said:
Geez, sorry about chris's car and mike's rim. Forgot to mention it before.

If the other Mike picked up 20 rwhp w/ his x pipe, maybe that will be my next mod instead of the shifter.

Back to the topic of hp vs. tq . Is my basic understanding of it correct? Torque measures the amount of power there is to turn the wheels and hp measures the amount of power produced over time. In other words if a car has high torque #'s it will accelerate quickly but reach it's peak quickly also, and if a car has a lower tq # but a high hp # it will accelerate a little slower but for a longer period of time and peak at a higher speed? I know there is more to it, but simply put is that right? Also, isn't torque less affected by the amount of weight it's pushing?
I feel like such a dummy.
Also, anyone know what the 5.7L ZO6's put down for TQ #'s if displacement is key?
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Horsepower vs Torque is a funny thing, really. I don't quite understand it save for this explanation: Horsepower is a measure of the energy your engine produces while torque is a measure of the force your engine produces. I don't think that how long you're producing power for depends on your horsepower so much as your setup and your stroke.
 

cold96snake

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ironheart1 said:
Horsepower vs Torque is a funny thing, really. I don't quite understand it save for this explanation: Horsepower is a measure of the energy your engine produces while torque is a measure of the force your engine produces. I don't think that how long you're producing power for depends on your horsepower so much as your setup and your stroke.
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Where in CT you located? I got friends/family all over central CT.
E. Hartford, Berlin, Manchester, S. Windsor.
 

cold96snake

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CRASH7772 said:
From the dyno shop we went to they were putting down 350tq and 360hp.
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Which, from what I've seen, is only slightly higher than their hp #'s. So i guess i'm still
 

CRASH7772

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cold96snake said:
Which, from what I've seen, is only slightly higher than their hp #'s. So i guess i'm still
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http://www.performance-dyno.com/pages/6/index.htm
 

FEARNO1

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cold96snake said:
If the other Mike picked up 20 rwhp w/ his x pipe, maybe that will be my next mod instead of the shifter. QUOTE]

He also put on a Cat back at the same time so he picked up that 20hp from a combo of both catback and h-pipe
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cold96snake

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CRASH7772 said:
http://www.performance-dyno.com/pages/6/index.htm
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Don't get me wrong, I believed you. That was the basis for my initial question. If it was just displacement, then the ZO6's would be putting a lot higher tq #'s down. So that makes me
Energy vs. force?

EDIT: This page is officially .
I'm gonna be here for post 3k.
 

cold96snake

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FEARNO1 said:
cold96snake said:
If the other Mike picked up 20 rwhp w/ his x pipe, maybe that will be my next mod instead of the shifter. QUOTE]

He also put on a Cat back at the same time so he picked up that 20hp from a combo of both catback and h-pipe
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I already have a cat-back. What would you estimate as a gain for the x-pipe?
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FEARNO1

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Simply defined, horsepower is the rate of doing work over a given amount of time. According to experts from SAE, one horsepower (1 HP) equals 550 ft-lb. per second or 33,000 ft-lb. per minute. Another familiar formula is the one which states RPM x Torque / 5252 = horsepower

Torque is the measurement of the strength of the rotational movement and determines how fast a car, boat, or airplane accelerates up to a required speed
 

cold96snake

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FEARNO1 said:
Simply defined, horsepower is the rate of doing work over a given amount of time. According to experts from SAE, one horsepower (1 HP) equals 550 ft-lb. per second or 33,000 ft-lb. per minute. Another familiar formula is the one which states RPM x Torque / 5252 = horsepower

Torque is the measurement of the strength of the rotational movement and determines how fast a car, boat, or airplane accelerates up to a required speed
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OK, that what I thought. I'm not the dummy I sometimes think I am.
 

FEARNO1

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cold96snake said:
I already have a cat-back. What would you estimate as a gain for the x-pipe?
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