Stock 2v shortblock, pretty impressive

02LaserRed2V · Mar 29, 2007

Wow, I've seen ppl with fully built 2Vs with ported heads, cams, on 14 PSI barely make more hp than mine at 9 PSI. KB 1.7L loses a lot of efficiency on anything over 11 PSI. I imagine it'd work better on a stock 281ci as opposed to a stroked motor.

san~man · Mar 29, 2007

hotmustang331 said:
pro 5.0 mag had a buildup of a 96 or something GT 2V engine. They pulled out over 600RWHP I believe...I THINK it was RWHP because I recal them putting the engine in a car....but its been a while back.

On the stock internals?

Dusstbuster · Mar 29, 2007

san~man said:
On the stock internals?

Yeah I'm wondering on that too...if they made it to that power level it must have been making the power at like 3000RPM and probably blew up right after they finished testing it.

The AF ratio was probably equivalent to a garden hose being fed directly into the cylinders too.

bransdaman78 · Mar 29, 2007

that dyno is way off, more and more tuners are pumping up numbers for people... including KB for advertising. get a dyno jet and find out what the deal is

BennyBlown2v · Mar 29, 2007

bransdaman78 said:
that dyno is way off, more and more tuners are pumping up numbers for people... including KB for advertising. get a dyno jet and find out what the deal is

What KB does is runs BUTTLOADS of timing and higher octane gas than the tune you receive is good for.

bransdaman78 · Mar 29, 2007

YEa i think they sneek a smaller pulley in their to on some of this stuff

and 525 is the most I have seen hold on a stock 2v for more than a month. 600 rwhp is just not believable.

jivepepper · Mar 30, 2007

Good job! Now go flat foot that thing.

the98stang · Mar 30, 2007

san~man said:
I have yet to read about an internally stock motor hitting 600 RWHP.

Few people on modular fords have done it. Like I said, it's unlikely to find them, but they are out there. I'm not saying 500whp isn't harsh on the block, but some people out there have done it.

Ibeyorsuperman · Mar 30, 2007

My car has already seen over 530hp 650tq at the wheels last year, when i was sprayin...I jus decided to ditch the nitrous and see what i could do with just boost...new fuel pump will be here next week, i'll be takin it to a dynojet on the 14th so we'll see what that says..

Dusstbuster · Mar 30, 2007

It's not even a ticking time bomb anymore at that point...the fuse has already been lit and is in the pre-detonation stage. Wasn't that a beautiful analogy?

Modular_Mike · Mar 31, 2007

What's with all the outrageous claims on the internet???

Post a dyno graph!!!

war69 · Mar 31, 2007

Just wondering if you have any sound clips of your car. I have the same car but and 02 with all the same setup. Just took the car in yesterday to have the stage 2 vt blower cams put in. did you here a noticeable lope and more power. What did it raise your redline to. I cant wait to get it back.

Dusstbuster · Mar 31, 2007

war69 said:
Just wondering if you have any sound clips of your car. I have the same car but and 02 with all the same setup. Just took the car in yesterday to have the stage 2 vt blower cams put in. did you here a noticeable lope and more power. What did it raise your redline to. I cant wait to get it back.

Well if it's stock then the redline wouldn't change, hell with that much power it should probably be lowered.

Duke309 · Mar 31, 2007

http://media.putfile.com/98Saleen-Dyno

Stock 98 shortblock (pistons, crank, rings, bearings, etc).
Fox Lake Stage 2 PI heads
Crane cams
PI intake
Accufab upper plenum
BBK long tubes with x pipe
Vortech V2 with aftercooler (3.33 pulley)
KenneBell Boost a Spark
NOS intercooler sprayer
60 pound injectors
255 lph intank pump
T-Rex external inline pump
Stock fuel rails, stock fuel lines, etc.
SCT XCAL2 tuned by Fastlane Motorsports

If i remember correctly it lasted for 3 years before he blew it after adding more power

Ibeyorsuperman · Mar 31, 2007

war69 said:
Just wondering if you have any sound clips of your car. I have the same car but and 02 with all the same setup. Just took the car in yesterday to have the stage 2 vt blower cams put in. did you here a noticeable lope and more power. What did it raise your redline to. I cant wait to get it back.

the VT stage II cams are a midrange cam 2500-5500 i beleive, i shift at 5700....but the top end power compliments teh KB low torque nicely.....No sound clips yet, should have some vid when i go back in two weeks..

TweekedGT · Apr 1, 2007

Those are impressive numbers indeed. I'm running a 14# pulley on my Stroker motor and not getting those numbers. Due to displacement and flow I'm only filling the block to 10PSI. I'm only putting down a little over 450rwhp on a Mustang dyno. Mind you it depends on your air fuel as well. Mine is a very conservative tune at just 10.3:1 @ WOT. It starts out near 11 at idle but as the RPM increases the A/F drops.

Gearbanger 101 · Apr 1, 2007

Hmmmmm

APiratesLife4Me · Apr 2, 2007

stock internals

Well that puts my mind at ease. I've been looking at going the KB route and was concerned about my stock internals. I'd love to do cams too, but I'm at 118k on the odometer and really don't want to rebuild anytime soon although It's probably inevitable. My old 5.0 went well past 150k without a hiccup however there was no boost in the equation.

cronin49 · Apr 2, 2007

007 said:
Exactly what I thought. Not to mention, 500rwhp on stock rods would make me very nervous indeed.

No ****, I'm making 411hp and I'm a little nervous.

DropTopPony · Apr 3, 2007

TonyG said:
Me neither. Chris Kauffman is making 500+ to the wheels with stock internals. That's the highest # I've seen.

Thats who comes to mind when i think of people running a decent amount of power on stock internals...i think he said he was @550rwhp.

Stock 2v shortblock, pretty impressive

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