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Seraphitia102

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what is PI and non-PI? I hear these terms and have no clue what they are. Is my car PI or non-PI?
 

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PI and non PI refer to the cylinder heads on the 96-04 mustang gts or the 4.6 sohc engines. From 96-98 they had the NPI heads which made around 40 or so hp less than the 99-04 cars which had the power improvement cylinder heads.

Your car is a PI car because of the year 99-04.
 

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PI heads are the Power Improved heads that came on 1999-2004 GTs
Non-PI heads are non-power improved heads that came on 1996-1998 GTs.

The heads have a lot better flow over non-pi. Yes you car has PI heads
 

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damn you beat me by a split second
 

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You all forgot the fact that the PI cars have slightly better, intakes and cams. Combined the heads, intake, cams make them PI.
 

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BooWFO said:
You all forgot the fact that the PI cars have slightly better, intakes and cams. Combined the heads, intake, cams make them PI.
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yeah nice addition
 

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PI is power improved. Oops, did it already get answered 10 times? My bad.
 

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SOHC = Single Overhead Cam
DOHC = Dual Overhead cam

Figured I'd cover the bases.
 

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Seraphitia102 said:
what is PI and non-PI? I hear these terms and have no clue what they are. Is my car PI or non-PI?
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I'm actually surprised you dont know that. You've been around these forums for a while now. Just surprised you haven't asked any of us earlier

But now ya know
 

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BRB= Be back right
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BBL- Be Back Later
TTYL= Talk to ya later
BBIAB= be back in a bit
 

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Not only are the heads different between PI and NPI but so is the lower intake manifold. Some people have put a PI manifold on NPI heads and have seen slight gains.
 

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PIITB = :SNSign:
 

merc123

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Shiroelex said:
PIITB = :SNSign:
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Beat me to it.
 

GDawg

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Shiroelex said:
PIITB = :SNSign:
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I'm glad you guys cleared that up for her...

Let's stay respectable and not the old TangNet that had no class...
 

Seraphitia102

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sweet i learned something today, thanks guys
 

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DIAF= Die in a fire.
 
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One of your questions has still not been answered. An S281 is a supercharged engine, so whether or not the base engine is PI or not you are WAaay up on power compared to a normally aspirated (non super charged) engine of either type.

As explained, this involve different and MATCHING cams, heads and intake manifold.

The Cams are entirely different in that the earlier cams are designed with a longer duration (leave the valves open longer), shorter lift philosophy while the PI cams use a shorter duration, higher lift philosophy.

The cam design philosophy change is to take full advantage of the high flow characteristics and flow pattern of the PI heads. For this reason if one were to change heads on an early engine to PI, they will be missing some of the power addition available if they do not also use PI intake and cams.
 

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MBDiagMan said:
One of your questions has still not been answered. An S281 is a supercharged engine, so whether or not the base engine is PI or not you are WAaay up on power compared to a normally aspirated (non super charged) engine of either type.

As explained, this involve different and MATCHING cams, heads and intake manifold.

The Cams are entirely different in that the earlier cams are designed with a longer duration (leave the valves open longer), shorter lift philosophy while the PI cams use a shorter duration, higher lift philosophy.

The cam design philosophy change is to take full advantage of the high flow characteristics and flow pattern of the PI heads. For this reason if one were to change heads on an early engine to PI, they will be missing some of the power addition available if they do not also use PI intake and cams.
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not all saleens are supercharged i believe the speedsters are and the s281extremes are hers is not.
 

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MBDiagMan said:
One of your questions has still not been answered. An S281 is a supercharged engine, so whether or not the base engine is PI or not you are WAaay up on power compared to a normally aspirated (non super charged) engine of either type.

As explained, this involve different and MATCHING cams, heads and intake manifold.

The Cams are entirely different in that the earlier cams are designed with a longer duration (leave the valves open longer), shorter lift philosophy while the PI cams use a shorter duration, higher lift philosophy.

The cam design philosophy change is to take full advantage of the high flow characteristics and flow pattern of the PI heads. For this reason if one were to change heads on an early engine to PI, they will be missing some of the power addition available if they do not also use PI intake and cams.
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s281's are not supercharged. s281sc's and s281E's and a few others got a superharger. s281 is the base model.
 

GDawg

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She doesn't have an actual Saleen hence the "Faleen" in her sig. She has a regular PI engine.
 
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