suspension guys.. take a look please :)

stang&2Birds said:

WARNING, one of my classic RANTS follows:

WTF?!!?!?!?!!?

Uhm, you do realize, DON'T YOU, that the GT IS A LOWERED PLATFORM ALREADY - don't you? And, the RICERS that lower the car more than 1" are just that RICERS! Unless someone COMPLETELY CHANGES the kframe and rear suspension ~3/4" is the MAX drop that a Fox or SN95 can be lowered before handling is DRASTICALLY EFFECTED!!

Sorry, B springs and C springs are FOR LOOKS ONLY! A good driver can drive better on stock GT springs!

Oh, wait, don't take what I say, or every technical site/paper, how about if we go by the EXPERTS - the people that DESIGNED THE STANG! Check out the height of the 100% PURE RACE ONLY 95 Cobra R - NOT available to the general public - no radio, no ac, no power anything - meant purely to meet the min required production numbers for racing (circle track).

BTW, the 95 Cobra R was lowered ~1/2" to 3/4" from the GT. There are PLENTY of books, specs, and sites to confirm that.

Then again, WTF do engineers know? And, why the **** bother to make ALL of those minor changes in the 87-93 front suspension over the years.


As I said, the GT is a *LOWERED PLATFORM*. This FACT is so simple so basic, so easy to verify, it's*****ING amazing that there still is the "adjust the TPS to .999999v mentality" with the GT suspension.

But, hey, using a tape measure requires at least 6 Ph.D's and 20 years experience. And, clearly, finding a non Fox or sn95 Stang to measure/compare is *****ing impossible!


Even lowering the Stang 1/2" introduces more suspension issues.
For one, I like lowering the Stang 1"+. Nothing says "I'm *******ing intelligent as all **** about handling" when the roll center is below the ground, and the bump steer & camber change are massive.


Rant off.

BTW: Yes, I do have springs for a 95 Cobra R that "one day" will go on my Stang. They are at the limit for a street-able Stang. But, they are still considered "a little soft" for the hard-core handling group. But, then again, they also don't run an otherwise stock suspension setup. So, it's not a 100% valid comparison to say that the 95 Cobra R springs "should be a little stiffer". Ford did a lot of testing in doing the 95 Cobra R. The even adjusted sway bar rates and bushing densities. So, I very much doubt that something as simple and trivial and going to a stiffer spring rate would make much difference on the "stock" suspension configuration.

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2000xp8 said:

I'd think with all your extensive knowledge you would know that the spring rates can't possibly be perfect for both cars.

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