The SN65 project car

rdmjr83 · May 13, 2005

SN65- At first I thought you were anti-headers, but now I understand your reasoning behind it especially with the clearance issuses. Thanks for taking the time to clarify things. Keep up the great work.

SN65 · May 13, 2005

Hi All,

The drama continues on this issue of American SN65 as Wayne gets the jump on Bob. While Bob is still frustrated by the delay of key components, Wayne surges ahead and gets the Wheel housings undercoated. Bob, frustrated by his brother’s progress, sabotages the entire build by putting a giant butt print in the newly applied Kent quick seal. Even though this meant Wayne had to rework the entire area, he still had the last laugh as Bob was rushed to the hospital for an emergency butt-ectomy.....

Anyway... I digress.

The Kent #P-13706 is a sprayable seam sealer. It is similar to the material applied to the factory wheel housing. The Kent material should be a bit better as far as mechanical properties (stone chips etc...). After the material completely sets, we will be painting it with satin black paint.

The rest of the materials I need for assembly should be in the shop on Monday. Next week is going to be great. I can't wait to get the suspension and drivetrain installed.

Life is good.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

R.A.T.M. · May 13, 2005

What about some kind of pearl?

SN65 · May 14, 2005

R.A.T.M. said:
What about some kind of pearl?

Hi R,

If I saw a yellow pearl that I liked, I would give it seious consideration. They just seam to intense, if it is even possible to be to intense.

Catch ya'll l8r.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

SN65.5 · May 14, 2005

Hi all
I think bob has been back in the paint room agian.
But anyway hopefully parts will arive monday and the beast will roll under it's own power by the end of next week. As long as we don't run into any problems.

SadbutTrue · May 15, 2005

so is there going to be a reenmachine vs SN65 video in... say... a year or so?

edit: on a more technical note, very few 03 guys bother with headers. Simply doesn't net the same gains compared to the stock system that headers on our classic cars get. A lot of guys are well into the five or six hundred rwhp zone on stock exhaust manifolds (some much higher than that,a ctually). So I agree with sticking to the stockers.

reenmachine · May 15, 2005

SadbutTrue said:
so is there going to be a reenmachine vs SN65 video in... say... a year or so?

Yes, the video will be of us sitting on lawn chairs when the projects are finally done, "competing" to see who can relax for the longest continuous stretch!

SadbutTrue said:
edit: on a more technical note, very few 03 guys bother with headers. Simply doesn't net the same gains compared to the stock system that headers on our classic cars get. A lot of guys are well into the five or six hundred rwhp zone on stock exhaust manifolds (some much higher than that, actually). So I agree with sticking to the stockers.

I've gathered the same thing, and I'm sticking with the stock exhaust manifolds as well. In addition, they leave me the room I need for a clean steering linkage as I'm sure SN65 can attest.

Route666 · May 16, 2005

Ahh but if you had the extractors, you could remove the steering link altogether, after all, how can you steer when your front wheels spend most of their time in the air?

Yeh I know it was lame, but I thought it came together quite well.

GT2K · May 16, 2005

SadbutTrue said:
so is there going to be a reenmachine vs SN65 video in... say... a year or so?

edit: on a more technical note, very few 03 guys bother with headers. Simply doesn't net the same gains compared to the stock system that headers on our classic cars get. A lot of guys are well into the five or six hundred rwhp zone on stock exhaust manifolds (some much higher than that,a ctually). So I agree with sticking to the stockers.

They don't bother because it is a pain to install. They net more than the early cars, perhaps a smaller percent but a larger rear wheel gain.

SN65 · May 16, 2005

GT2K said:
They don't bother because it is a pain to install. They net more than the early cars, perhaps a smaller percent but a larger rear wheel gain.

Hi GT,

I thought that long tube headers would net you about a 20HP gain on the 03 Cobra engine. Not much of a gain for the trouble and expense.

I though that headers really start to kick on this motor when you start upping the boost, etc...

Catch you l8r.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

Edbert · May 16, 2005

Yeah 20fwhp is hardly worth the $750 plus 8 hours it takes to get LTHs onto a late model. At least when you compare that to the $300 plus 30 minutes they take on an early one

SN65 · May 17, 2005

Hi All,

Yesterday, I took a drive to the south side of Chicago and picked up the LDC Chicago 4.6 cooling mod (I left at 6AM and returned to the office at 10AM). I just have to say that it looks very impressive. I will be installing it today. I will be posting photos and comments, but I am sure that it will work just fine. Also, they seem like a dedicated group of guys who have given a great deal of thought to the design and installation of this product.

You will notice that we now have the car up on a lift instead of the rotisserie. We are now ready to start another restoration if anyone is interested in rotisserie time.

Wayne and the crew installed the rear end after I left last night. When I rolled in this morning, at about 5:45AM, I fired up the lights and ran to get the camera. I was both very impressed and very happy to see how far they got after I left last night. Now I can install the fuel tank and the rest of the fuel system and chassis components.

All we need is the clutch from CenterForce (they assure me it is on the way) and get the lower front control arms painted, and we can install the front suspension and the rest of the drivetrain.

Wo Hoo!!!!

We are getting close now. So close that I can almost taste it.

Today is going to be a good day.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

monk302 · May 17, 2005

SN65 said:
Hi All,

You will notice that we now have the car up on a lift instead of the rotisserie. We are now ready to start another restoration if anyone is interested in rotisserie time.

Here is another donor for you, an '03 Cobra that was rolled. I want a convertible though.

http://www.stangparts.com/home.cfm?section=forsale/index

68rustang · May 17, 2005

monk302 said:
http://www.stangparts.com/home.cfm?section=forsale/index

Ha, I have never seen an 03/04 cobra with cloth 6cyl. seat in it before.

reenmachine · May 17, 2005

How is the rear coilover conversion done? They don't just bolt up to where the shocks went do they?

cougar_68 · May 17, 2005

Does anyone know where you can get an "air deflector" like the one that is on the airfilter of that cobra? Basically just the plastic piece that goes around it?

SN65 · May 17, 2005

reenmachine said:
How is the rear coilover conversion done? They don't just bolt up to where the shocks went do they?

Hi RM,

Well....

Yes they do, but, I reinforced the shock area in preparation for this install and I kept the stock lower control arms just in case I decide to nix the coil over setup and reinstall the factory springs. Also, I am giving Maximum Motorsports the benefit of the doubt on this one because everything else they supplied seems to be so well thought out. I am sure they gave this the utmost consideration before deciding to go this route.

I was also giving consideration to adding a cross brace between the top of the rear shock towers as a belt and suspenders approach.

Back to work.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

reenmachine · May 17, 2005

SN65 said:
Hi RM,

Well....

Yes they do, but, I reinforced the shock area in preparation for this install and I kept the stock lower control arms just in case I decide to nix the coil over setup and reinstall the factory springs. Also, I am giving Maximum Motorsports the benefit of the doubt on this one because everything else they supplied seems to be so well thought out. I am sure they gave this the utmost consideration before deciding to go this route.

I was also giving consideration to adding a cross brace between the top of the rear shock towers as a belt and suspenders approach.

Interesting. The DVS kit I have on the way to install the Cobra IRS takes this approach as well, and I've been curious to see how he addresses this issue. If there's no reinforcement or re-engineering done I will do it myself, as I'm not comfortable with carrying the full weight of the car (and dynamic loads as well) on points designed to simply carry shock absorber loads, which are an order of magnitude lower.

monk302 · May 17, 2005

68rustang said:
Ha, I have never seen an 03/04 cobra with cloth 6cyl. seat in it before.

I was actually thinking the same thing when I saw that. Someone definitely pulled them out for themselves for EBAY. Make a convertible SN65. Would that even be possible??

GT2K · May 17, 2005

SN65 said:
I though that headers really start to kick on this motor when you start upping the boost, etc...

Exactly.

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