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Thinking of getting new wheels for my 2007 GT C/S. If I do not get the TPMS installed with the new wheels is there anyway to turn off the reminder on the dash?
 

SpartaPerformance

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NONE! TPMS are mandated by the federal government, it can NOT be turned off.
 
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I understand the reason for the TPMS, but it has maken it a lot harder/more expensive to do simple wheel swaps now.

TPMS is one bit of technology on a car I could do without.
 

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The tire shops around here will no longer install wheels/tires without ensuring that the TPMS sensors are installed and operating when you pick up the car. The courts apparently expect them to not be a party to defeating a mandated safety system - whether the owner wants them to or not.
 

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Thanks for the info.
 
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Rich08809 said:
Thinking of getting new wheels for my 2007 GT C/S. If I do not get the TPMS installed with the new wheels is there anyway to turn off the reminder on the dash?
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Why ? Proper tire inflation is very important + it saves time by not having to check it and still knowing TP is ok,my tires came from Ford with nitrogen in them 2011 Mustang GT.I am going to get another set of wheels and want the sensors put into the new rims.
Coyote.
 

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I just want to make sure I understand before ordering my new wheels. Can I put the sensors that are already installed in my factory 18's on my 2011 GT in the new wheels, or do I actually have to buy new sensors?

From what I've read it looks like I can re-use the sensors already installed, I would just need the bands and reset tool. Is this correct?
 

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The sensors are reusable and most wheelshops can code them to the car/corner at installation.
 
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5.0 Coyote said:
Why ? Proper tire inflation is very important + it saves time by not having to check it and still knowing TP is ok,my tires came from Ford with nitrogen in them 2011 Mustang GT.I am going to get another set of wheels and want the sensors put into the new rims.
Coyote.
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In my experience, TPMS are very inaccurate and tend to malfunction quickly. Got a new work van, within 8 weeks time the TPMS had to be replaced, 3 months later, it went bad again. If I want to accurately check my tire pressure, I will do it the old fashioned way
 
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5.0 Coyote said:
Why ? Proper tire inflation is very important + it saves time by not having to check it and still knowing TP is ok,my tires came from Ford with nitrogen in them 2011 Mustang GT.I am going to get another set of wheels and want the sensors put into the new rims.
Coyote.
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This is an expense I could do without myself, since I'd like to change rims in the next year as well. I find the TPMS system to be completely useless for me since I regularly check tire pressure and never let it drop low enough for the warning light to come on, which is set at 5 or 6 psi below the normal running psi on my car.
 
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75player said:
I just want to make sure I understand before ordering my new wheels. Can I put the sensors that are already installed in my factory 18's on my 2011 GT in the new wheels, or do I actually have to buy new sensors?

From what I've read it looks like I can re-use the sensors already installed, I would just need the bands and reset tool. Is this correct?
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If you re-use your original sensors you shouldn't need to reset them. Just get new bands, take the sensors and cradles off the old rims and install them in the correct position on the car and the cars TPMS monitor will never know the difference.
 
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TPMS is useful. I don't care how often you check tire pressure....there are situations in which it can help...and SAVE you money!

I had a 95 cobra that I had Eibach springs installed on. Later the same day I took a 3 hour roadtrip to Seattle. On the way I felt the car pulling a little to one side and didn't think much of it (figured it was added bumpsteer due to lowering). What I think happened was the shop installed the valve cap with the rubber seal crooked which pushed the valve needle and slowly drained the tire. When I eventually pulled over the tire was smoking and shredded. Back then its 17" low profile tire was big and uncommon. I had to stay overnight while they had the $275 tire delivered. I wasted 4 hours of my life watching the wretched movie Titanic to kill time while being stuck in port orchard.

I guess what I'm saying is that TPMS sure would have been useful then and I wish I would have had it.

The tire pressure was obviously checked at the shop before I left town....and it didn't matter ;-)
 
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That's all well and good, but would the tpms really have saved you in that situation? Would you have seen the warning light and pulled over right away or knowing the system throws an alert around 28-32psi would you have thought to yourself "the psi is still high enough to get me where I'm going and I'll check it there", or maybe figured that the tires were just checked so the system must have a bad sensor and kept driving anyway? I'm just sayin.......

I don't doubt the system has value to the average driver, the one who only checks their psi when a tire "looks" low, at which point the tire has been below optimum psi for probably a couple weeks and wasted a fair amount of gas due to the lost mpg the low tire has caused. And don't delude yourselves into thinking this is some great safety device intended to save lives or to save you any money by saving your tires, this was gov't mandated first and foremost to save gas since running on low tires is documented to noticably lower mpg, and some silly gov't study (your tax $$ at work) indicated a high percentage of drivers don't regularly check their tire psi and that if all the cars on the road had properly inflated tires the amount of gas saved on a national scale would be some huge figure that I can't remember at the moment.

So, when you go to buy that shiny new set of custom rims and have to shell out the extra $$ to get the tpms sensors installed on them, just remember it's the 9 other drivers you pass on the road (you being the 10th in that 9 out of 10 ) that let their tires run low that you have to thank for spending that extra money, because if more people checked their tires more often, it wouldn't have been necessary for the gov't to make this system a requirement.:stirpot:
 
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I have drag radials on separate 18" rims and no sensors.
 
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I've gotten by for many years with the tire pressure monitoring system in the glove box of my VW, right next to my flashlight and owners manual.
 
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i think they fixed tpms so it actually needs 4 signals now because i remember on an earlier year car someone put all the sensor in the spare... but after installing and resetting the systems at the job i dont think it would work on a new system
 
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Rickmaan1 said:
That's all well and good, but would the tpms really have saved you in that situation? Would you have seen the warning light and pulled over right away or knowing the system throws an alert around 28-32psi would you have thought to yourself "the psi is still high enough to get me where I'm going and I'll check it there", or maybe figured that the tires were just checked so the system must have a bad sensor and kept driving anyway? I'm just sayin.......
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I'm pretty sure it would have absolutely saved my tire in that situation and the the odds of me pulling over and checking would have been far higher than the odds of you checking your tire pressure every time you get in your car (or even weekly for that matter)...just sayin'...

Also, I've had four cars with TPMS....and none of them have ever given me false warnings (or even warnings when the pressure is around 28-32 psi...has to be much lower than that).

I just can't understand why everyone is so worked up about a safety feature (yeah...it can save gas too and I don't doubt the real reasons for gov't involvement) that costs minimal money and is already included in the price of your car?? Maybe you guys should spend your time more effectively by finding ways to remove seatbelts, airbags, and headrests. Also, there's no real reason to have an oil temp/pressure gauge in a car if you check your oil and coolant regularly, right?
 
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Rickmaan1

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STANGmole said:
I just can't understand why everyone is so worked up about a safety feature (yeah...it can save gas too and I don't doubt the real reasons for gov't involvement) that costs minimal money and is already included in the price of your car?? Maybe you guys should spend your time more effectively by finding ways to remove seatbelts, airbags, and headrests. Also, there's no real reason to have an oil temp/pressure gauge in a car if you check your oil and coolant regularly, right?
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Now you're just being argumentative. If you want to buy into the propaganda that the tpms is a "safety" feature, then that's your perogative, but to compare it to air bags and seat belts is just silly. Why not compare it to impact bumpers and roll cages while you're at it? I can see the accident report now, "I was almost killed in that crash, thank God my tires were properly inflated, tpms saved my life!"

Also, checking your oil level regularly isn't the same thing as monitoring the psi or temp with a gauge (btw, my car doesn't have oil temp or psi gauges), and having an oil psi gauge doesn't remove the need for checking your dipstick so that statement is complete nonsense.

The only one who seems to be really worked up here is you, and the only reason I can see for that is no one seems to agree with you. The OP didn't seem worked up, he just wanted to learn if there was a way around the warning light if/when he bought new rims.

It's a legitmate question given the fact that the tpms system will cost you money in addition to the price of the new rims to keep it working, and if you buy a whole new set up of sensors and bands at retail price it isn't exactly cheap. No other "safety" feature on the car requires that extra expendature to keep it functional when you want new rims, which is why some people don't care for it. If you never swap rims on your car it's not an issue, but the very type of personality that would be drawn to a forum like this is more likely to customize his/her car than the average driver, so for many people on here the tpms is a money issue.

To support my position that tpms is just another gov't intervention to make the average driver carry the burden of reduced fuel use, I know for a fact the tpms on my car is set at 28-30 psi. I know this because the day after I drove my car home the warning light came on. When I checked my tires I had 3 at 32 and one at 28. I brought the low one up to 32 and a couple days later the light came on again. That time I had 2 tires at 30. I've kept the tires at 36 since then and check them roughly once a week (as I have always done with all my cars) and the light has never come on again in the year I've had the car. It is not dangerous to drive the posted speed limit on tires at 30 psi, but it does use more gas.

Now if we can only get the people who ignore that little yellow light on the dash of their new car to actually check their tires once in a while, we as a country might actually reduce our oil consumption by a few barrels a day in 5 or 6 years when the number of cars on the road with tpms starts to outnumber the cars without it. Yeah, I guess that's worth the extra cost and hassle for me to put custom rims on my car.
 
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