TRICK FLOW HEAD INFO!!!

billfisher · Nov 6, 2008

98COBRA281 said:
it possible, a member here"TGJ" made like 360 rwhp with ported npi's through an auto........

numbers like that are VERY suspect when MD and tim barth say otherwise.

billfisher · Nov 6, 2008

FELLAS THIS OPENS UP THE 5.4 2V MARKET. THE HOLD-UP WAS FLOW AND DYNAMICS. THAT IS OUT THE WINDOW. edelbrock and hardballr intakes will feed 330 cubic inches.

so ls-1's will have to watch out for these in little 96-04 stangs. especially in ported form.

and i rarely run into 9 second LS-1 at the strip ot street. i lose to some i beat some. but none are 9 sec. i will calculate the max hp/rpm for 240 cfm in 330 cu.in 2v.

98COBRA281 · Nov 6, 2008

billfisher said:
numbers like that are VERY suspect when MD and tim barth say otherwise.

here is his quote from another thread, and i have talked to him before about it, oh and its a npi.....

TGJ said:
I don't have a NPI Mustang but I do have a 1996 Ford Thunderbird LX Sport that is N/A.

The mod list:

- Removed Air Silencer
- Stock Airbox and Filter
- 2002 Mustang GT MAF
- 2004 Mustang GT Intake Tube
- 75mm BBK TB
- C&L Plenum
- FRPP PI Intake
- Port & Polished PI Portmatched NPI heads
- Crower Stg 2 PI SC Cams
- 1996 Teksid 4.6L Bored and sleeved to 3.7" AKA 5.0L Big-Bore
- Diamond 2V 3.7" Flat top pistons with valve reliefs( 10.5:1 Compression Ratio )
- Manley Forged Rods
- Stock Cast 4.6L Crank
- Cobra Oil Pump
- TSS Billet Oil pump gears
- Mark VIII oil pan
- Kooks mid length ThunderBird headers
- Magnaflow 3" Spun Cats
- Magnaflow 3" X-pipe
- Magnaflow 2.5" Offset/Center out muffers
- 30 lb/hr FRPP fuel injectors
- 190 GPH fuel pump
- 4200 RPM PI Triple Disc TC
- Built 4R70W auto transmission
- Dyno-Tech MMX Driveshaft
- FRPP 99 Cobra Trak-lok differential
- FRPP 4.30 gears
- Custom SCT Dyno-tune( Safe 12.5 AFR, 20 Degrees total timing on 91 Octane fuel ).

348 RWHP - 366 RWTQ -> Not a MISPRINT...

Note 1: NO CAI, NO UDP's, NO Electric Water Pump, NO Longtubes Headers
Note 2: Catted Exhaust with safe conservative tune on 91 Octane Fuel
Note 3: 363 RWHP 370 RWTQ with Power Steeriing Bypass belt and turn downs bolted onto the X-Pipe instead of the mufflers on the same above tune with 91 Octane fuel.
Note 4: Car had Power Steering Issues before and when it was on the dyno, Power Steering pump has been replaced after car was on the Dyno. That *may* play into the discretion between running the PS and PS Bypass belts...

billfisher · Nov 6, 2008

The HP for your Cylinder Head Flow of 240 is 493.45 at a RPM of 7,649.46 for your engine size of 330 CID

that is of course theoretical. but you get the idea. supporting mods and 330 cu.in means bad to the bone.

billfisher · Nov 6, 2008

The HP for your Cylinder Head Flow of 240 is 493.45 at a RPM of 8,983.36 for your engine size of 281 CID

that's for 4.6. a tunnel ram would be needed for that kindof number, but you know the 2v pros are after that one.

billfisher · Nov 6, 2008

all the cubes do at this point is lower the rpm band needed to reach full potential.

98COBRA281 · Nov 6, 2008

billfisher said:
The HP for your Cylinder Head Flow of 240 is 493.45 at a RPM of 7,649.46 for your engine size of 330 CID

that is of course theoretical. but you get the idea. supporting mods and 330 cu.in means bad to the bone.

how are you finding that out?

eliteJAE · Nov 6, 2008

i had a buddy back home that had a foxbody with full, i mean FULL, bolt-on N/A 5.0 that made ~450 RWHP he had the dyno sheet and everything, i don't know what he had in it because i dunno much about 5.0's, but I remember calling him out on the numbers and him showing me dyno sheets and whatnot.

FWIW, he couldn't really road trip much because he only got like 8MPG lol

Zoie_daGT · Nov 6, 2008

I gotta say, I am very excited about these heads. I will use my ported nonPIs til they are maxed and then see what these things have to offer. We will all hopefully see in a few months.

Winters98GT · Nov 6, 2008

Almost no lsx cars run mid 8's in houston at our tracks. Most NA, are deep in the 7's and upper 6's.

We should just chalk it up as a great milestone in 2v performance. I hope these heads perform great. It would be nice to see some 115-120 trap speeds in an NA 2v.

mogs01gt · Nov 7, 2008

This is awesome, I wish this was 5 years ago but ohh well. 185cc runners FTW!! That right there is going to make great power! Now does anyone want to buy my heads ?

navarro98gt · Nov 7, 2008

Wonder how these heads would work on an NPI motor…..compression wise.

TGJ · Nov 7, 2008

navarro98gt said:
Wonder how these heads would work on an NPI motor…..compression wise.

They will bump it up like the PI headswap does.

mogs01gt · Nov 7, 2008

TGJ said:
They will bump it up like the PI headswap does.

There are two combustion chamber sizes as well.

TGJ · Nov 7, 2008

mogs01gt said:
There are two combustion chamber sizes as well.

Both will bump the compression on a NPI car...

DBMSTNG · Nov 7, 2008

mogs01gt said:
This is awesome, I wish this was 5 years ago but ohh well. 185cc runners FTW!! That right there is going to make great power! Now does anyone want to buy my heads ?

i'll give ya $100.

these new trickflow heads are making me want to spend money on the stang again. i would like to combine them with the BBK SSi intake if it ever comes out. with a good set of cams, i think i could make a nice broad torque curve before the boost hits hard.

billfisher · Nov 7, 2008

well those fellows who own blown 2v's will have instant termi power. of course 340cfm stage 3 04 heads are king. but in stock form they'll be killers.

billfisher · Nov 7, 2008

no more of this" 8psi with 350rwhp" crap. 8 psi will get everything a stock headed termi will get.

billfisher · Nov 7, 2008

if i wasnt commited i would definitely use them.

billfisher · Nov 7, 2008

btw i know about his motor. (tgj)

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