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simplyJ said:ok, i don't want it to seem like i'm slamming someone personally... all I'm doing is venting my frustration. Like I said in previous posts, Dave has been nothing but helpful... unfortuntely that is not all that is needed to do business. I'm not an idiot, I understand the R&D put into a product like this... but at the same time when looking for an abnormality we must look at what has changed... R&D and customer service has likely not changed much in the past month. When setting a price a business man usually factors in R&D and the cost of doing business. Nobody expects to get rich selling a product that is meant for a niche market and I applaud that. Dave never expected to get rich off a kit meant to install a Cobra IRS... but at the same time he factored that into the original price. However.. since last month two things have changed... the cost of steel and his avertising base. The cost of manufacturing those brackets is not high enough to warrant a $300 increase... I don't think anybody could say that at with a straight face. Also, I know several people who are sponsored by koni and their insiders say that while the cost of raw steel has increased it has not been enough to raise prices by 30%. So what's left? either the cost of making brackets has increased abnormally or the effects of supply and demand has been recognized as a money maker. We all understand that it does not take 1299.00 to make those brackets and supply the suspension products... but it was ok because Dave was the only guy who was willing to develop the product... but now he realized he could make more money so he is. And that is it.
i totally agree...its not costs going up, its greed. You can get a sheet 4x8 of 1/8" steel for about $100 here locally in TX. How many bracket sets you think you could make out of that? 4-5 is my guess (could be wrong). I know and ahve felt the steel price increase because I ahve built a couple rotisseries over the last year and a half or two. My first one cost $325 in steel, 2nd was about #360 and my last was just over $400 for steel. All the same designs. Cost of steel has doubled in the last 5 years. I think he got his advertisement and his 15min of fame now he wants more money. We will see what happens to his demand. I was about to buy his kit but decided its just not worth that much. Im gonig to fab up my own kit.

. To justify his time, R&D, and lets not forget HUGE exposure to liability, he's got to make what he can. I'm so far away in my project rustbomb that I fear by the time I'm ready to buy Dave's kit, he will have stopped making them. See you in about two years Dave!