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1995greenstang

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Thanks for the help.
Seems as if everyone has some smart ass remark. There is my grammar better Now? Also i said in the earlier post the harmonic balancer is brand new. Just Nevermind i will not post here anylonger.
 

BlownFiveLiter

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Thread merged with prior thread on this topic, for assisting in continuing the diagnosis of this problem. I haven't seen any "smart ass remarks" being made, personally. Whether a thread is legible tends to make, or break the ability to understand the content contained within it.

I believe you may need to go over your entire installation, and ensure something wasn't missed along the way. An oversight of one bolt on the pressure plate, being incorrectly torqued compared to the rest, or something of that nature. The input shaft could be bent and causing a problem, if you had to pull the transmission into the bellhousing with the bolts. When you were reinstalling the transmission, did you allow it to be supported by the input shaft at all, or did it slide into the clutch freely? If you disengage the clutch, does the vibration stop?
 

HISSIN50

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1995greenstang said:
Thanks for the help.
Seems as if everyone has some smart ass remark. There is my grammar better Now? Also i said in the earlier post the harmonic balancer is brand new. Just Nevermind i will not post here anylonger.
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I thought everyones' replies on this thread were very considerate, so we'll assume the above reply was directed at me. That's fine but I still stand by my statement. Diagnosing an issue is tough enough to do from a keyboard, and since the only medium utilized in this instance is the written word, punctuation becomes very important. I really did not follow the early posts as well as I could have because of this. My grammar isn't great, and my thoughts are often tough for people to follow. But I do put forth an effort to minimize difficulty. I dont care about actual punctuation as much as using some mechanism to separate thoughts (e.g., some people type like this...... and that's fine with me........ as long as the periods are there to separate ideas and trains of thought).

You can see from the number of replies that folks are doing their best to try and help you out (myself included), and it's frustrating when that's tougher to do than it needs to be.

Back to the thread, a new balancer doesn't mean an application-correct balancer. Nor does it mean the correct counter weights or spacers are included or used. Again, we're trying to think aloud with you to help you fix your car.

Best of luck with it.

P.S. Matt, thanks for the diplomatic thoughts (you and Grady are very good at smoothing things over. ). And thanks for merging the threads - that will help us to provide the most thoughtful answers possible.
 

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1995greenstang said:
it vibrates when sitting still or moving so has nothing to do with the drive shaft or u-joints any thing i stated in this post is the same as the last nothing different
i changed out the throwout bearing because it was making a ruccus and it did have a vibration before i pulled it out but not as bad as it is now. if anyone has a t5 for sale let me know im 99.9% sure its the tranny just not ready to go and blow $1200 on a transmission right now
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Green I had the exact same problem and did the exact same thing you did when I did my 1st ever clutch change. I must've removed the transmission 3 times (got really good at it). I had old flywheel resurfaced (vibration) so purchased new flywheel (vibration so returned it). Took the old one back with the dowel pins this time to the machine shop and the guy checked it out and must've put the dowel pins in the correct holes. The problem was I had the dowel pins in the wrong hole. The car vibrated while at idle so I knew it was someting with the clutch install and not the drive shaft - although that was what I was hoping the problem was but it wasn't. I can almost guarantee you the dowel pins are not installed correctly and that is your problem.
 
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HISSIN50 said:
Your lack of grammar and punctuation makes it tough to decipher your posts. What components have been replaced between the engine and trans?

Did your balancer come with a removable counterweight(s)? Was the key intact when you installed said balancer?

As Zerochance noted, we get tired of looking up people's old threads (this probably should have all just been a continuation of your first thread anyhow). Here's his first one for those following along:

http://forums.stangnet.com/764101-vibration-after-installing.html

Good luck.
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I think this constitutes an act of embarrassing him, personally. I would have told you to stick it in your pipe and smoke it as well. I read everything just fine. Anyway, back to the subject of the dowels. I purchased a new flywheel, and a new Fidanza clutch. No dowels were in the clutch or the flywheel I removed, and none were in the parts I received. Assuming the previous owner removed the clutch at some point, did he forget to use these again? Are they something that new pieces like a flywheel and clutch kit are required to have re-used over and over? Where can I pick some up at? This is my first clutch installation.
 

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I think this constitutes an act of embarrassing him, personally. I would have told you to stick it in your pipe and smoke it as well. I read everything just fine. Anyway, back to the subject of the dowels. I purchased a new flywheel, and a new Fidanza clutch. No dowels were in the clutch or the flywheel I removed, and none were in the parts I received. Assuming the previous owner removed the clutch at some point, did he forget to use these again? Are they something that new pieces like a flywheel and clutch kit are required to have re-used over and over? Where can I pick some up at? This is my first clutch installation.
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I didn't need to do anything to try and embarass anyone. I actually tried to be polite. And that was after I was told that there are no dowels because this isn't a Chevy. Who was trying to embarass whom?

I was not sure the original message was being delivered as clearly as it could have been, and that creates frustration for folks trying to help. I guess I'm not as perceptive as some folks are.




I was going to sign off on this thread but since I'm already posting here, and believe it or not, I do my best to be helpful, you should have used dowels. They help with alignment. If you have some chatter or vibes and they were omitted, that could be the issue.

I had no dowels when I converted the car, so I had to be sure I procured some.


Here's the kit I used, part number 397-M-6397-A302 :

Ford Racing Performance Parts [M-6397-A302]

You might be able to get the dowels separate [from someplace like LRS or the dealership] but since I needed the bolts too, that's the route I went. Your online speed shops have the above-linked kits for about 15 bucks.



Good luck to you. I hope I didn't offend anyone with this post.
 

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I had a friend who had a vibration he couldn't identify. He took all the bolts out of the clutch and weighed them. They were all different weights, so he rearranged the bolts and it took care of the vibration. Sounds like a long shot but it's worked.

Kurt
 
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Thanks
 

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The original poster probably isnt going to even post here anymore because he got offended for whatever reason. Likely because all our suggestions were simple things and to recheck his torques, etc. Most people dont like to be second guessed even though nine times out of ten it IS something simple and got overlooked.
 
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