Vortech Says This In Regards To Intercoolers/after. Do Y'all Concur?

500 rwhp shouldn't be that bad, presuming an efficient compressor if you're already making 300 rwhp with a low compression ratio. So, premium heads/cam/intake and 9:1 CR + 8-10 psi from the right compressor should get you in the realm without any ill effects.

I guess I still like a turbo more for the application in order to keep the psi down and efficiency up. I'm afraid that the blowers mentioned would be out of their efficiency range. That's when an intercooler would be a nice safety net...

edit: This, to me, is still the model 500 rwhp (ish) combo for cheap, repeatable, affordable fun in a fox: http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/finally-got-my-turbo-retuned-dyno-numbers.840573/

I have personally seen back to back blower head unit testing and compressor efficiency plays a huge role in deciding for an intercooler. The Vortech stuff is hands down much more efficient and I would be more than willing to put up any of my head units for a back to back comparison to the competition. Like anything else, there are plenty of different ways to build a compressor and some work better than others. In my eyes, there is a reason that Vortech will glady give anyone without question a compressor map for any blower that they produce, that flat out doesn't happen from any competitor.
In regards to needing a intercooler or not, any restriction in the intake track will cause a greater resistance or back pressure and ultimately more load on the compressor. The higher the load the more heat that the compressor will generate. There is a trade off in both directions and that's the juggle that we need to look at. If you can build a compressor that is efficient enough from the start then you will find little to no gain in a cooler when you run the compressor within its designed efficiency range. While I agree that the Vortech after cooler is not the most efficient option, it does provide better results than a heat soaked air to air cooler. I can't see them redesigning a system that has worked so well for so long.
I think that the consideration should also be made as to the overall customer base that Vortech serves. APG or AirPowerGroup is a big name in the industrial and marine market. This is actually the biggest part of the company and where Vortech actually stems from, the motorsport market is a relatively small part of their operation. They are involved at a very high level internationally with their compressor technology and I can not say the same about any of their competitors... This to me lends itself towards better product development and really is the reason why their compressors are light years more efficient that others, experiance is what it comes down to really.

Am I biased? Sure am, I know what has worked really well for me and what has failed miserably. I base my opinions on those experiances

84, from an engineering standpoint, these are really Air-Water-Air inter/aftercoolers, right? I mean, these are not the racing Air-Water coolers that people put buckets of ice into, I'm assuming. Those are probably the most efficient designs out there, but they're also impractical for daily use.

This type of A-W-A cooler is used on the twin and roots blowers because there's no other practical way to get a heat exchanger in between the cylinder and the blower. Still, when the opportunity allows for A-A coolers to be used, conceptually I'd guess it would be the more efficient design. I'm not referring to anything in particular... just thinking conceptually out loud.

On another note, I know something I'm always very concerned with is detonation. Intake temperature is the primary way safeguard against detonation. So, even though something may make similar power numbers, my preference would be to do it with a more conservative tune and lower air temps.