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Hey was up guys i wanted to ask you all what would be a good combo to run mid 12s in my 95 mustang gt it's a 5 speed.
 

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150 shot, a shifter, and 4.10:1 gears. Maybe a few other things.

Kurt
 

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crazy95horse said:
Hey was up guys i wanted to ask you all what would be a good combo to run mid 12s in my 95 mustang gt it's a 5 speed.
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Have you performed any mods yet? You need ~300rwhp to run mid-12's in a full weight GT so if you want the engine to stay NA, you'll need full external bolt-on mods plus heads/cam/intake but it doesn't stop there. You'll also need gears, stickier tires, rear upper/lower control arms, weight reduction, and practice launching/shifting gears to get there.
 

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Bullitt95 said:
Have you performed any mods yet? You need ~300rwhp to run mid-12's in a full weight GT so if you want the engine to stay NA, you'll need full external bolt-on mods plus heads/cam/intake but it doesn't stop there. You'll also need gears, stickier tires, rear upper/lower control arms, weight reduction, and practice launching/shifting gears to get there.
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well right know i havent done anything performance wise but i do have some 3.73s sitting around at home. and i was planning of getting an H/C/I for next spring but i really dont know which heads would be better for n/a. i've heard of some guys running 185s on there 302s are those heads too big.
 

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I wouldn't say the 185s are too big, but you would have to rev it up quite a bit to get them to their full potential. I would recommend a set of Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 170s for a street car. You don't have to notch the pistons to run a 2.02" intake valve and a very decent cam with those.

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I wouldn't say the 185s are too big, but you would have to rev it up quite a bit to get them to their full potential. I would recommend a set of Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 170s for a street car. You don't have to notch the pistons to run a 2.02" intake valve and a very decent cam with those.

Kurt
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thanx i forgot to mention it's not a daily driver, i just use it on the weekends to cruise around, i want it more for 1/4 mile drag racing.
 

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Do a minimal amount of mods first and a set good track tires and practice practice practice, that will drop your times more then any single mod....superchargers/nitrous excluded
 

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Get some sticky tires, gears, tune up, timing bump and practice some. That will help alot but will not get you into the 12's. You will need some heads, intake, cam, exhaust, injectors, maf, fuel pump and a tune or just a good shot of nitrous to get it into the mid 12's Although some have done it with less.
 

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yeah i was thinking on getting some 185cc trickflows with an edelbrock performer rpm ll and a comp xe282 cam and all the other mods. does that sound like a good combo? also a friend told me to get a victor jr instead.
 

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yeah i was thinking on getting some 185cc trickflows with an edelbrock performer rpm ll and a comp xe282 cam and all the other mods. does that sound like a good combo? also a friend told me to get a victor jr instead.
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185cc trickflows are pretty big heads with a port size close to a 205cc afr but due to the shorter port length the volume is lower hence the 185cc ports.

Truthfully that combo will be lazy in the lower rpm's as the cam is on the large side. A combo with large heads and decent intake on a small 302 will benefit from alot of lift and pretty low duration but that is not all there is to it. A custom cam will make the combo work pretty good but that off the shelf cam would not be a good match.

You can make a larger head work on a small engine but it will be very sensitive to valve timing and less forgiving to the wrong cam being picked. Which is why most people use smaller heads on 302's. They've always heard that large heads kill torque and they do if the cam is not matched exactly right to the combo.

A set of 170cc Trickflow TW's with some bowl blending and minor port work not really opening them up would be better if you are not planning on a custom cam.

AFR 185's are a pretty good head for a 302 but require either fly cutting the pistons or a custom cam designed to use with stock 5.0 pistons.
 

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i was thinking on getting a custom cam theres a shop nearby but i dont know if they do custom cams for ford, you all think the trickflows 170s would be better for the 302.
 

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i was thinking on getting a custom cam theres a shop nearby but i dont know if they do custom cams for ford, you all think the trickflows 170s would be better for the 302.
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If your gonna use a custom cam call the person you are getting it from and ask what they recomend.

BTW Trickflow makes another head the 190cc Fast as Cast which is a cast version of the 185cnc'ed heads.

For a good custom cam look up camshaft innovations and flowtech induction.

I know camshaft innovations will sell you any of those trickflow heads with valvesprings setup for the cam they will grind you.

I think flowtech induction will do the same with afr heads.
 

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If your gonna use a custom cam call the person you are getting it from and ask what they recomend.

BTW Trickflow makes another head the 190cc Fast as Cast which is a cast version of the 185cnc'ed heads.

For a good custom cam look up camshaft innovations and flowtech induction.

I know camshaft innovations will sell you any of those trickflow heads with valvesprings setup for the cam they will grind you.

I think flowtech induction will do the same with afr heads.
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thanx alot rj95svt i check those out see what i can do.
 

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any other suggestions are welcome.

thanx
 
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