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What should I do with along with the PI headswap?

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98blackstallion

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Ok guys i have my heads and stuff for my PI swap that I am gonna do. BUt what I want to know is what else should i do while i am doing this? Should I have the heads ported or get some VT stage 2 cams or get Long tube headers? What should I do. I dont have the money to do all of them at the same time just one of them. I am thinking of doing the cams while I am at it. What do you guys think.
 

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if you do VT2 cams you need springs too. LT's would be a good choice.

you can also port the plenum while it's out.
 

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98blackstallion said:
Ok guys i have my heads and stuff for my PI swap that I am gonna do. BUt what I want to know is what else should i do while i am doing this? Should I have the heads ported or get some VT stage 2 cams or get Long tube headers? What should I do. I dont have the money to do all of them at the same time just one of them. I am thinking of doing the cams while I am at it. What do you guys think.
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Do it all! Thats exactly what I did. But if you cant afford it, I say do the cams. But like Tomustang said, get the springs as well. I think youll get more of a power increase from the cams than you will the longtubes.

Stage II idle video clip of my car
 

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yeah i knew about the springs I just forgot to put it up there.
 

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other stuff

my personal opinion is that you have an oportunity to get more power out of these heads than guys that haven't removed and modded their heads.

3 or 5 angle valve job = 65 dollars = more flow.

mill .025 = higher compression = more power.

open up exhaust w/flapper wheels and pocket port bowl if you have skills. = little more flow = more hp

remove swirl brows = less shrouding back side of valves = little more flow.

deshroud valves .010 = little more flow.

larger 1.8 intakes = more flow

all added together with $599.00 cams = more power for dollar.

i assume higher octane fuel is not a poroblem for you if you are going for VT's

if vt's have tighter centerline 108 or 109 degrees higher C/R will maximize output.

that's my story and i'm sticking to it

you will notice bigger cams recommend higher than stock C/R.
 

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I would say cams w/ the springs to match, but you may need (probably need) a tune with the stage 2 cams to get everything out of them. So if you have the extra money for the tune then do it! When I was stockpiling parts last winter for the swap I regret not getting cams and LT's, instead I got nitrous, which I could have gotten anytime. In retrospect, it would have been a much better decision to get LTs and cams when everything was apart...good luck man, maybe just save for another month or two and get it all.
 

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Yeah I was thinking about just going with the cams and springs and leaving it at that. I dont want to much power so I really dont need the heads ported because I will prolly use nitrous in the future so Im not really worried if the car isnt a horsepower king.
 

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definately do the cams and springs while the heads are off...so much easier. also might want to pop a new water pump in while your at it since you have to remove the old one anyway. I don't know what your mileage is but maybe replace timing chain and guides etc.. I didn't do it when I did my PI swap but I will install all new guides etc with the ported heads and cams.
 

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I second that for the water pump and guides, its just making it that much more reliable, I did mine while it was all apart, I painted everything too, valve covers, timing cover, alternator, intake, coolant reservoir and some other stuff I am probably forgetting...anyway, you get the point, do as much as you can while its apart cause its the prime time to have access to this type of thing
 

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THanks for the help guys
 
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