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What tool do I use to cut my coils?

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SLEEPERstang21

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I just purchased the suspension kit form Mustangs Plus and would like to lower my ride a little more. What tool is best for cutting the coils?
 
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Something other than a torch. A cut off saw, disk grinder, saws all.
 

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SLEEPERstang21 said:
.... What tool is best for cutting the coils?
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Your wallet. Return (sell?) your old springs and buy new ones.

Cutting the springs alters their rates.
 

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I've found a dremel to work quite well. Did the same thing to my 620 springs from Mustangs Plus. Definitely have not had any ill effects.
 

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It will only change the rates if you have a progressive spring, or you create excessive heat while cutting.
 
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Hack saw and a neighbor

I told my neighbor that no matter how much he worked out there was no way he could cut through a coil on my spring with a worn out hacksaw. When he proved me wrong on the first one, I laughed it off saying it was shear luck, and that the metal was fatigued due to age. No way in hell could he repeat it on the other one.
Darned if he didn't prove me wrong again!
didn't take him much more than 10 minutes on each spring.

Scott
 

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I agree with ozstang65.................buy the right springs. Cutting of coils is just a temporary fix and will result in a rough ride.
 
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I've used a hack saw but the die grinder and cut off wheel are much easier, not much heat either.
 

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Crs said:
I agree with ozstang65.................buy the right springs. Cutting of coils is just a temporary fix and will result in a rough ride.
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I for one would like to know how on earth this could possibly be true. Cutting springs does NOT result in a rough ride. How could it? Yes, removing the amount of coils does SLIGHTLY firm up the ride due to one less coil to provide suspension, but given the horribly wobbly, flacid stock '60's Ford suspension, this is always a good thing. I have cut coils on cars to drop them for about 25 years or so with not one problem. Ever. The cars typically ride better since they don't blow through their travel and slam into the bump stops anymore. As far as buying the right springs, maybe in some fantasy world you can buy springs that are perfect for the ride quality and stance you want, but here on earth it doesn't work that way. A buddy of mine bought a set of 620 one inch drop springs for his '67 and actually had the car sit slightly higher than stock. Sweet. Now what do you do? So many vendors simply sell springs and have no idea what rate or drop their springs really are. My advice if you want to cut springs is to use an abrasive wheel and be conserative (I usually cut 1/4 coil at a time then settle the suspension by driving it in and out of the shop a couple times and check the stance. Yes it takes time, but it beats buying more springs if you cut too much the first time out. Good luck!
 

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zookeeper said:
I for one would like to know how on earth this could possibly be true. Cutting springs does NOT result in a rough ride. How could it? Yes, removing the amount of coils does SLIGHTLY firm up the ride due to one less coil to provide suspension, but given the horribly wobbly, flacid stock '60's Ford suspension, this is always a good thing. I have cut coils on cars to drop them for about 25 years or so with not one problem. Ever. The cars typically ride better since they don't blow through their travel and slam into the bump stops anymore. As far as buying the right springs, maybe in some fantasy world you can buy springs that are perfect for the ride quality and stance you want, but here on earth it doesn't work that way. A buddy of mine bought a set of 620 one inch drop springs for his '67 and actually had the car sit slightly higher than stock. Sweet. Now what do you do? So many vendors simply sell springs and have no idea what rate or drop their springs really are. My advice if you want to cut springs is to use an abrasive wheel and be conserative (I usually cut 1/4 coil at a time then settle the suspension by driving it in and out of the shop a couple times and check the stance. Yes it takes time, but it beats buying more springs if you cut too much the first time out. Good luck!
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cutting coils off increases spring rates.

The function for computing spring rates contains the number of coils of the spring (n).

View attachment 474647
 
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Thanks everyone! I have an '02 with H&R springs...rough ride...the 620's-cut will be a relief.
 
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I used my angle grinder with a cutoff wheel. Only took about 60 seconds each.
 

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DukeGnarley said:
It will only change the rates if you have a progressive spring, or you create excessive heat while cutting.
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Ahh negative - the coil is now shorter, meaning it has less flex. Take a 1" bar 20 feet long and it's easy to bend it, cut it down to a 5 foot section and how easy is it to bend now? Your leverage on it is decreased. A coil is just a coiled piece of round bar in that the coil only provides a neat packaging. It still acts as if it were a straight bar.

While the tensile strength of the material is not altered (unless heated too much like you said), the rate of the SPRING is still increased if it is shortened.
 

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67coupe351w said:
cutting coils off increases spring rates.

The function for computing spring rates contains the number of coils of the spring (n).

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I stand corrected.
 

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Having established that cutting the spring increases the spring rate, and also that the standard 620 coils supposed 1" drop is usually not sufficient, what other springs can be purchased to lower the front end 2"? I've looked everywhere but can only find the 620 1" drop springs.

Has anyone found a place to buy springs that maintain the 620 spring rate but are shorter to achieve a 2" drop?
 

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Try this article..
http://www.historicmustang.com/tech.html
 
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I found that cutting the stock springs worked great. Got me the drop I was looking for and firmed up the spring rate (but not too much) all in 1 shot.

And it was free!

If you have your original coils still, why not experiment with cutting them before buying new springs? It'll only cost you some time...
 
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Cutoff wheel works well. Wear safety glasses!!!
Kevin
 
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2bav8 said:
I've found a dremel to work quite well. Did the same thing to my 620 springs from Mustangs Plus. Definitely have not had any ill effects.
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2bav8 - You said that a dremel works well? Is there a certain kind of blade I need to use or can I use a normal Metal Saw? The guy at OSH looked at me all crazy when I told him what I was gonna do and recommened an angle saw. I would rather use a dremel (if it works) because it's more versatile and I can use it with other things.
 
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