Where the market is going for Fox Stangs..

saleenster · Feb 13, 2006

Watched a little something on Saleen history and Fox Mustangs reborn on the learning channel a few nights ago. Basically, they keep mentioning how the Fox Mustang for the most part brought the performance car back to the forefront in the mid 80's, due to emissions and gas prices, etc. Most of us know this, but looking ahead a decade or so, these are the cars that will be worth serious cash. We are already seeing a portion of this to some degree. Check out the links. Some of you may think it's crazy, but reality is people are paying those prices for such cars.

I think the coupe will push the 20K mark, and its by no means as nice as Jays.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...iewItemQQcategoryZ6236QQitemZ4612766431QQrdZ1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...iewItemQQcategoryZ6236QQitemZ4612549144QQrdZ1

Rootus · Feb 13, 2006

It may be a while before garden variety Fox body Mustangs are rare enough to get above average price. The two you mentioned are 1 in 4 and 1 in 28, which is a bit different than 1 in 100,000 .

Dave

The Factor · Feb 13, 2006

Very good point Dave, I agree. But I also understand what Cory is saying. But when All is said and done I'll take one from the 100,000 category and race it at every track possible and enjoy everything it has to offer like I did my Cobra. Butting looking back I kinda wish I didnt race my cobra as much or pushed her to the point past drivability and just got a older fox body for that and saved the cobra for dynos and car shows and fun street pulls .The rare ones are for people who just want to dyno and take to car shows, Whitch is great also depending on what your needs and wants are.

jordanvraptor · Feb 13, 2006

"Dynos and car shows"... That's sounds like a ricer talking...

Darkness · Feb 13, 2006

I saw a white 89 SSC on ebay a couple of weeks ago. Damn nice looking car and was well priced too. (i.e. less than $15k)

codemonkey · Feb 13, 2006

As much as I love fox bodies, I think garden variety ones like I own will take 50 years or so to become really worth anything. I wouldnt consider them investment vehicles by any means. Look at first gen coupes, arguably the best mustangs for collectors, you can pick up a 64-69 coupe for 1500-2500 in restorable condition, 3500-4500 for really nice ones. Fastbacks excluded of course, these stangs are cheap and expendable still 40 years later. I think the foxes are going to face a similar fate.

Only the 1:100 ones will be worth anything. I could be wrong, but I think with foxes, history may prove again that mass production = lower value, which we all know to be true.

blown04snake · Feb 13, 2006

Here is something to keep in mind regarding the Fox body Mustang or any cars value. When a particular generation retires or gets close to it, (50 - 60 years old) they go out and buy the car that turned them on in high school. I graduated during the muscle car era (1967 - 1970) and I wanted to get a car from that era (found the Cobra and its faster than most of the cars from that era anyhow). The kids that were in high school when the Fox came out are getting married, building families and buying houses. They dont have time nor the money right now. When they do, they are going to buy the Fox body Mustang because it was the baddest car around at the time. What else was there? Rice? haha. Buy now and invest in the future. The Saleens, Cobras, and SVO's will definately be more valuable but the garden variety Fox bodies will also have value.

saleenster · Feb 13, 2006

LZR RED SNAKE said:
Here is something to keep in mind regarding the Fox body Mustang or any cars value. When a particular generation retires or gets close to it, (50 - 60 years old) they go out and buy the car that turned them on in high school. I graduated during the muscle car era (1967 - 1970) and I wanted to get a car from that era (found the Cobra and its faster than most of the cars from that era anyhow). The kids that were in high school when the Fox came out are getting married, building families and buying houses. They dont have time nor the money right now. When they do, they are going to buy the Fox body Mustang because it was the baddest car around at the time. What else was there? Rice? haha. Buy now and invest in the future. The Saleens, Cobras, and SVO's will definately be more valuable but the garden variety Fox bodies will also have value.

Very well said! When I was in High School, the car eveybody compared speed to was the 5 liter mustang. If your car couldn't be the 5 liter, then you just weren't very fast. Sheby's bring the top of the late 60's and early 70's Mustangs, but when "Gone in 60 seconds" came out, they sky rocketed. I believe something similar will occur in the future to re-create the samething for the lower production models, but a clean fox will bring top dollar...and even today that number is climbing higher and higher.

Dave, I understand what your saying too.

Smoke'm · Feb 13, 2006

I think the 94/95 GT/Cobra cars are the ones that will be in demand...ones that are very clean and not modded to death...codemonkey nailed it on the fox bodys...they were holding there own barely and the bottom completly fell out last week...quite a few decent ones around and dirt cheap with no takers...

I have always found it odd how the 64/67 cars are still pretty cheap most of the time...hell we are selling roller chevys for 10k+ these days and these are cars needing the works and there going out of site for the working man fast especially if you want a done car or perf model...get 'em while you can, there not making them any more....

fiveohwblow · Feb 13, 2006

codemonkey said:
As much as I love fox bodies, I think garden variety ones like I own will take 50 years or so to become really worth anything. I wouldnt consider them investment vehicles by any means. Look at first gen coupes, arguably the best mustangs for collectors, you can pick up a 64-69 coupe for 1500-2500 in restorable condition, 3500-4500 for really nice ones. Fastbacks excluded of course, these stangs are cheap and expendable still 40 years later. I think the foxes are going to face a similar fate.

Only the 1:100 ones will be worth anything. I could be wrong, but I think with foxes, history may prove again that mass production = lower value, which we all know to be true.

I am in agreement with most of what people are saying, as in the foxes are not quite collecters in and of themselves yet, but I also think they will be. The early era Stangs were a new market, and it went off without a hitch. However, there were many other hot rods, which is why they tried to capture a niche market of "pony" car enthusiasts. Notice the one fact no one disagrees on is that the fox helped revive an entire dead market for performance. This says something about present and future value. They will be valuable, and they still are.

As far as the early coupes go, my old man and I picked one (68) up for 1300 a while back. Put our own blood, sweat and tears into it, and whaddya know? It got appraised at $12-$15000. Not too shabby, and far from 4-5k. Unfortunately, we promised it to a friend before we got it appraised and didnt want to change the price and had to let it go for only 9k. Oh, and BTW, it was the straight six coupe, nothing fancy, just restored.

loud 95 · Feb 14, 2006

Darkness said:
I saw a white 89 SSC on ebay a couple of weeks ago. Damn nice looking car and was well priced too. (i.e. less than $15k)

I wanted to buy one that was for sale in Vancouver about six years ago. 11k miles on it and well priced. Unfortunately, my dad wouldn't let me buy it.

The Factor · Feb 14, 2006

jordanvraptor said:
"Dynos and car shows"... That's sounds like a ricer talking...

Thats also a good point, whitch definately clears me of being a ricer, had a lot of 1/4 runs at the track and the majority of dyno runs were for tuning and the car shows were for social events

ddonaca351 · Feb 15, 2006

LZR RED SNAKE said:
Here is something to keep in mind regarding the Fox body Mustang or any cars value. When a particular generation retires or gets close to it, (50 - 60 years old) they go out and buy the car that turned them on in high school. I graduated during the muscle car era (1967 - 1970) and I wanted to get a car from that era (found the Cobra and its faster than most of the cars from that era anyhow). The kids that were in high school when the Fox came out are getting married, building families and buying houses. They dont have time nor the money right now. When they do, they are going to buy the Fox body Mustang because it was the baddest car around at the time. What else was there? Rice? haha. Buy now and invest in the future. The Saleens, Cobras, and SVO's will definately be more valuable but the garden variety Fox bodies will also have value.

Just fyi, were "only" about 15 years from retirement (im on the latter half of that group youre talking about). So if youre gonna invest do it now, were getting close.... Most of wont wait till 65-70 I dont think, my op. is that well be more in the 50 range, since we have been hearing since young about saving money, 401ks, etc... so we will likely be ahead of the game in respect to our parents.

DD

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