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JTGrant

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Do you we have windage trays on our cars? If not where I can get one.
 

GOLDENPONY

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I think the 3 valve engine does have a tray
 
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Yes, there is one in there. Ford did a lot of good things to this engine that have saved us time and money.
 

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thanks
 

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looking at fords tech site, there is no windage tray.
 

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no one on this forum has this mod?
 

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I've heard from people who've had the pans off their 3 valve 4.6 engines that there is a windage tray present. I know that the 4 valve 4.6 V8s have them and I'd be really surprised if Ford wouldn't put them on the 3 valve engines as well.
 
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You know, you are right JT. What I read must have been some early publicity, and Ford probably dropped the idea because of cost. Like they did with a bunch of other things.

I just talked with the Ford Racing Hotline, and there is NO windage tray in the 3v engines. But, there is a windage tray available for the 4.6 block (same block is used for 2V and 3V). So, it could be put in our S197's. BUT, you gotta pull the engine to install (or maybe drop the whole K-member?). I don't know which is worse.

It may provide a gain of some horsepower at the top end when the revs are high.

But, before I press the submit button, Four Horseman may have additional info.
 

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you can remove the motor mounts, raise the engine, and then install the tray. These cars don't have a windage tray.
 

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NorthwestGT said:
You know, you are right JT. What I read must have been some early publicity, and Ford probably dropped the idea because of cost. Like they did with a bunch of other things.

I just talked with the Ford Racing Hotline, and there is NO windage tray in the 3v engines. But, there is a windage tray available for the 4.6 block (same block is used for 2V and 3V). So, it could be put in our S197's. BUT, you gotta pull the engine to install (or maybe drop the whole K-member?). I don't know which is worse.

It may provide a gain of some horsepower at the top end when the revs are high.

But, before I press the submit button, Four Horseman may have additional info.
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DO NOT listen to those knuckle-heads at Frpp, they have NO clue what is what
the 4.6 3v engine in a Mustang DOES have a windage tray
 

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yes they do, sorry I saw pics on another mustang forum. But the picture on ford's tech site doesn't show it.
 

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Noob question here, can someone please explain what a windage tray is/what it does?
 
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Hi Randy. Haven't heard from you in quite some time since the old 2V Mustang Corral days. I'm still over there. But, I don't have my '96 anymore. Got a 2005 GT. You helped me get a lot of hard to find Ford parts for that '96.

True, maybe the guys at FRPP don't know what's going on. I guess I don't either. I had read a year or so ago that the new 3V engine did have a windage tray, but I'll be darned if I can find the article to back up that statement. So, other than dropping the pan on my car (which I'm not going to do) I can't claim proof one way or the other.

The windage tray is a good idea because they have some fins that help to keep the oil in the sump from drowning the crankshaft and making the rotating parts work harder with more mass (oil) on them. Most racing cars will have such things. Moroso and maybe Granatelli and a few other manufacturers make the parts. They're fairly cheap, but tricky to put into our Mustangs. In Ye Olden Dayes, you could drop the oil pan and replace it with one having a windage tray in your driveway.
 

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NorthwestGT said:
Hi Randy. Haven't heard from you in quite some time since the old 2V Mustang Corral days. I'm still over there. But, I don't have my '96 anymore. Got a 2005 GT. You helped me get a lot of hard to find Ford parts for that '96.

True, maybe the guys at FRPP don't know what's going on. I guess I don't either. I had read a year or so ago that the new 3V engine did have a windage tray, but I'll be darned if I can find the article to back up that statement. So, other than dropping the pan on my car (which I'm not going to do) I can't claim proof one way or the other.

The windage tray is a good idea because they have some fins that help to keep the oil in the sump from drowning the crankshaft and making the rotating parts work harder with more mass (oil) on them. Most racing cars will have such things. Moroso and maybe Granatelli and a few other manufacturers make the parts. They're fairly cheap, but tricky to put into our Mustangs. In Ye Olden Dayes, you could drop the oil pan and replace it with one having a windage tray in your driveway.
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Joe, I remember you. not a problem, we've had a few apart for one reason or another and they've all had windage trays on them. take care and if you do need anything, Im still around
 
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jay07 said:
Noob question here, can someone please explain what a windage tray is/what it does?
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Yeah, I have to plead ignorance, as well.
 
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As your crank is moving very fast, any oil it contacts while turning offers resistance, a windage tray reduces the amount of oil coming in contact with it.
Freeing up horsepower.
 
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