Seriosuly dude you have no clue what you are talking about. My guess is you are some 16 year old that has no clue about how a company makes money.
try again.
what exactly do you drive?
relevance?
No its because there is nothing they can do to keep the weight down without increasing the price. Yes there are easy ways to lower weight but its NOT CHEAP.
i disagree with this statement. "there is nothing they could do to keep weight down without increasing price because they are too lazy/uncreative/not clever enough" would probably be more accurate.
it isn't lucrative enough for them to do this. that is what everything comes down to. it isn't just about cost for us, its actually mainly about what sells the most cars while making them the most profit.
most people dont care about weight, i do. i am in the minority. i can accept that.
Once again you are wrong. There is no “clever” way to lower weight while making large amounts of hp. Yes they do care about the dollar that’s why Ford is in the financial position they are in now and the only one out of the big three that isn’t on the verge of bankruptcy.
you dont need large amounts of hp. 400hp is just fine for me, in fact, i'd be happy with the 315-350hp especially if they could bring the weight down.
Please explain to me a clever way of doing this since you seem to know how to?
did i say i knew how? i think i just said i knew it was possible...
1) Do I have exact numbers, no. Do I know it will weigh more than the current 3V, 100% yes.
i'll settle for ballpark numbers that are factual.
2) Where the hell did you hear its physically smaller. I can tell you, you are 100% wrong on that. Its is bigger than the current 3V and is about the same size as the 5.4L Shelby motor.
the watercooler. got some pics? i'll believe it when i see it. also, if its the same size as the 5.4 then it has to weigh much less. unless they're using some type of aluminum that weighs as much as that cast iron stuff.
which probably means i was comparing it to the other engine that is made of that other stuff. whats it called?
4)Weight is weight it doesn’t matter where its at.
make a note: this is the exact point in our conversation where you clearly indicated to me that you know crap about the subject matter.
next you'll tell me there is no difference between sprung and unsprung weight.
5) Yes and look at how many 2V, 3V and 4V that are FI that matters to a lot of people.
im talking about a production supercharged GT500 powerplant replacement.
6) I’m never said it would weigh as much as the GT500.
I also know you can expect the 11’ GT with the Coyote motor to weigh in close to the SS Camaro.
which is reported at 3860lbs which is 40lbs shy of the current gt500 and 90lbs shy of the 2010 gt500.
close enough.
HAHA I bet you’ve never even seen a car that’s made 1000rwhp in real life let alone have any knowledgeable experience with them. With the stupid **** I’ve seen you post you have no clue what you are talking about. You also must have never been to a track or even to a weekend meet. There a NUMEROUS cars that make 700-800rwhp that not only drive and race there cars on the street but go to the track all the time.
so, is this the part where you just make up your own history for me because you dont like my opinion so far?
Hell get on a little site called SVTP and see how many GT500s, Cobras and any other cars there are on there making 700-800 rwhp.
im sure they are. street tires on a cold nice, even. all that power is getting to the ground, totally. right off the line. from the sound of things you could make a 1000hp car hook up with DR's on a wet road.
Then buy a Vette. What do you currently drive?
what is your favorite dental floss?
Well Mr. Moneybags you are the only one that doesn’t care about price and they are not going to build a 50+k Mustang GT just for you.
you misunderstand, i dont want a 500hp 3000lb carbon fiber body car. well, i do but i dont think that's anywhere near possible any time soon. im just tired of car makers making cars heavier when its totally unecessary. i dont WANT 15 airbags.
i will buy a big fat heavy car only as a last resort. some people would rather have a car that weighs twice as much if it makes twice the power. i'd rather have a car that makes half the power and weighs half as much.
thats just my opinion dude. clearly, we are of different mindsets regarding this matter. you dont mind extra weight in a GT car. thats cool, i'd like to avoid it for as long as possible.
The GT500 motor weighs in at around 800lbs, the 3V weighs in at around 420lbs and the coyote will weigh close to 500lbs. Though nothing is confirmed on the coyote motor that’s what I’ve heard from an insider at Ford.
finally some useful information. 80lbs for an extra set of valves and a punched out motor? that is a compromise i could make.
i'm done with quotefests, man. you can expect singular replies from now on