Stalls, Have to Sit with Battery Disconnected, Then Starts/Runs Fine

DannyB1122

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So I've been having an intermittent issue for the better part of the last 2 years on my 87 GT, and I've been stuck scratching my head. Periodically, the car will stall and will not re-start unless I disconnect the negative battery terminal and let the car sit for a few minutes. When it stalls and I try to re-start it, the engine turns over but doesn't fire up. If I try to re-start it too quickly, it seems to vapor lock, resulting in my having to have it sit for longer. It doesn't happen all the time, but it's just enough to be a pain in my ass, as it happens at the most inconvenient of times, and almost never in my driveway or garage. I've replaced the fuel filter, thinking that was the culprit. I've replaced the fuel pump, thinking that was the culprit. Neither have solved the problem. About 7 or 8 months before this issue came about, I replaced the ignition module by the distributor with a supposed genuine Motorcraft part (I say "supposed" because I've heard that it's basically Chinesium with a Motorcraft logo on it). Could that be the cause?
 
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I’ll try that. I’ve also heard that it could be the ECM or the starter solenoid fusible links. Not sure it’s the ECM in this case since I have an extra and it’s done this with each one installed.
 
Let me expand, now you're gonna waste money randomly changing parts and not knowing if it's fixed until you're 'awe sht' alongside the road again.
I mean you could get lucky but then :shrug:
Here's what I'd do: carry a spark plug tester, 12 volt test light or DVOM and a can of starting fluid, when it dies, give it a shot of the 'flamethrower in a can', if it starts up then dies=fuel related, no start= electronic thing, now you have a direction to go in.
I will admit given the symptoms you describe I'd just throw some 'happy cash' at a new distributor.
There ain't no app for that but there is a tech thread:
 
Let me expand, now you're gonna waste money randomly changing parts and not knowing if it's fixed until you're 'awe sht' alongside the road again.
I mean you could get lucky but then :shrug:
Here's what I'd do: carry a spark plug tester, 12 volt test light or DVOM and a can of starting fluid, when it dies, give it a shot of the 'flamethrower in a can', if it starts up then dies=fuel related, no start= electronic thing, now you have a direction to go in.
I will admit given the symptoms you describe I'd just throw some 'happy cash' at a new distributor.
There ain't no app for that but there is a tech thread:
When it happened last night, after having it sit for a bit I tried to start it, it kicked over and then died. Then I let it sit some more and after a while it started. What makes this even more complicated is that it’s totally random. It doesn’t do it every time I drive the car. It doesn’t even do it every other time or every third time. It’s almost like it’s possessed lol
 
ECU could be bad but you need to go through the check list that the General linked before you do anything else.

 
I mean I could tell you to replace this dohicky or that one but what do you do when it randomly stops again? It could be a loose connector or a frayed wire, think of it this way, it's a glob of electricity dancing around under the hood, it carries information, the flow is being interrupted, jumbled, like a computer screen jumping, you have to find the interruption, go through the checklist I linked and you'll find it, intermittent interruptions are hell to find, usually easily fixed.
 
I personally would pull the ECU out and take the cover off if it and look at the capacitors. They have also caused problems with the function of the fuel pump.

I mean that ECU if original isn't far from 40 years old!

If you want it checked out and fixed it needed contact ECU Exchange.
 
I replaced the TFI earlier today, and the fuel pump is new as of last summer, so if it does it again, I think I’m going to put in a new EEC relay followed by a new distributor.
 
Wondering what you ended up doing to solve this problem as I am currently having the exact same issue, and disconnecting the battery and letting it sit for 10 minutes gets it going again. I'm about to start on the checklist that was linked in this thread but figured I would ask as I am currently on a roadtrip so limited availability of parts.
 
I changed the ignition control module on the distributor and it continued, so I changed the computer relay and the ignition switch (both in their respective pain in the ass locations), and haven’t noticed it; I figure that if it happens again, I’m just going to change the distributor.
 
Thanks. Just wondering - when you had the issue was it fairly consistent in starting back up again after letting it sit? Just weighing options on if I keep trying to drive it home or if I try to get it into a shop in a town I pass to see if they would be able to get parts in if needed.
 
When a wire gets hot at a " break ' it will move further apart... I assume the same for a break in a coil or ECU so I can see an electrical problem developing when hot then not having a problem when cold?
I know when you unhook a battery in some cars it resets the computer, but I believe you need to leave it disconnected for a longer period of time... Have you tried to remove the battery negative for a longer period? Overnite used to work on a Chevy Lumina belonging to a " woman I used to know" .......