AODE Limits

[94GTLaserRC]

I called Art Carr Yesterday to discuss my AODE if I get the 331 Im looking into.

The guy there said that I "could" spend tons, or leave it like it is and see what happens. He said without constant track use and high RPM launching, That there is a good chance that my stock AODE (with TC, Shift kit, and cooler) will do fine, even in the 450-500 RWHP range....He said the real disadvantage is not being able to control the tranny myself like you could with a C4, but it should still "hold up" nevertheless.

Considering they are there to "TRY" to sell me something, I took this as a positive.

Can anyone agree or disagree with the above?

Thanks
RC

 

[blksn955.o]

There seems to be alot of good things coming from doing a 4r70 swap into the AOD case (to work with the 5.0 as the 4r70 is a 4.6 auto). They are from what I have seen MUCH stronger than the stock AOD.

Search under blackvert IIRC he is going that route with his combo. Its also a trend on hardcore.

 

[Wi Stang]

I won't disagree with what he said. There is always a chance it could hold up.
I went a little over a year on my stock AODE that just had a shift kit, and trans cooler. I was putting down about 430 rwhp over that time period. I went to the track a few times, and drove it everyday. I never ran anything but regular street tires on it just to try and save the tranny. It was still working fine when I swapped it out to the T-56.

 

[davins130]

mine holds up ok with the supercharger...But it is my 2nd (first one was bone stock and that blew up with 95k and 150dry shot) the one i have now was rebuilt about 15k ago with heavier duty clutch packs and HD OD band. I also went back to the stock converter since something bad hapened to my 800dollar converter when i added the supercharger. i am just waiting for it to blow up so i can swap in a tko600, but it seems to never happen.

 

[sage2k]

my aode died when it was bone stock lol

 

[94GTLaserRC]

I considered the 4r70 swap, but I have an $800 PI Stallion converter that is useless in the that tranny.

For about $1200, I can the 3 different parts changed out, (bands, diodes, input shaft, etc) that should help...but Since it wont be a daily driver, and you know about me and the track...it should do ok....HOPEFULLY!!

RC

 

[gcomfx.com]

AODE are strong transmissions when properly built. Upgraded clutches are about all you can add to your combo that I can think of. Well, that and cooling... lots of cooling. You can put a deeper pan on it to hold more fluid. I just went with a Ford 4x4 pan. It's the same pan as our stock one, but it has a big dimple in the pan for a pick up tube that is in the filter. This will help guarantee I always get fluid, even if it runs a little low, or I climb a big arse hill. Plus it was free.

Also, this time I install the transmission, I'm actually going to use synthetic fluid. Big bucks, but what the heck. It should help keep the heat down. I just went from the mild to heavy setup with the shift kit. I also had Andre @ EdgeRacing restall my converter. He said something about GM's patent running out on their stators. So now it has a better stator in it that wasn't available to the aftermarket world before without a big fee. It should launch firmer, and slip even less, keeping it cooler yet.

You have two options for making your clutches last longer. It really is how you drive it. Manual shifting it or not. On our transmissions, if you manual shift them, it will engage the O/D band when shifting into second. This is good for extra holding power, but bad if you have a stock O/D band. As they are notorious for burning up. I've burned up two so far with manual shifting. The computer was shifting too early, so I have manual shifted the car for years to get an extra couple tenths out of it. Manual shifting also produces more heat when you leave it in a lower gear and drive around listening to your exhaust.

 

[Mustangless]

your converter should work in a 4r70w. i took my converter out of the aode and put in the 4r70

 

[trav_19]

i have never had any problems with my aode and it has a shift kit...? my friends 95 that was pretty well put together and got tons of abuse also had a shift kit and never gave him any problems

 

[94GTLaserRC]

your converter should work in a 4r70w. i took my converter out of the aode and put in the 4r70

Someone on the boards here AND the guy from Art Carr said they are not compatible
RC

 

[94GTLaserRC]

i have never had any problems with my aode and it has a shift kit...? my friends 95 that was pretty well put together and got tons of abuse also had a shift kit and never gave him any problems

Im talking about a car with 450+RWHP though
RC

 

[Killercanary]

I had an AODE '95 for all of about 6 months and I had a ton of problems with it. Unfortunately its been too long for me to remember what went wrong, but "piston" sticks in my head. The car was bone stock except for a K&N and mufflers and it was never raced.

 

[94GTLaserRC]

Is that REALLY YOU PauL?????

Havent seen you around forever..... My AODE has held up all this time. I was just wondering the general power limits, which it seems the concensus is 'hit or miss'

WIth the way YOU drive, I would say no!!

For me, maybe I will be fine?
RC

 

[trav_19]

oh i see my friends probley was pushing close to 400 maybe 375 or some... but i tell you he gave that car noooo mercy what so ever....just burning the tire with the bottle all the way up and down the road pegging it and everything the trans never gave him any issues it was the motors he had a hard time keeping together lol

 

[drakesdad]

Just run what ya got for awhile...........if it goes....then cross that bridge.....

 

[GT_green_GT]

my aode is on the fritz now. Its never been to the track. It doesnt want to shift out of second. i have to let off. It shifts into 4th gear fine.

 

[gcomfx.com]

my aode is on the fritz now. Its never been to the track. It doesnt want to shift out of second. i have to let off. It shifts into 4th gear fine.

Did you go from 2.73s to 4.10s?

 

[SN95StangMan]

Did you go from 2.73s to 4.10s?

+1

Is it hitting the rev limiter before it shifts? Do you have a chip or anything else to adjust the shift points considering the faster acceleration of the car after the gear swap?

 

[94GTLaserRC]

Just run what ya got for awhile...........if it goes....then cross that bridge.....

That is the plan for now, since I have the cooler, shift kit, and TC.
RC

 

[trav_19]

so when i go to 4.10's i will need a chip to correct the shift points?? do i get one from a dyno tune? or are there off the shelf chips any help i would appreciate and sorry to kinda jack this thread