03 GT vs. 96 Z28 Close race?

[alphawolf47]

Ok recently my buddy back home has called wanting to race, I havn't been back to oblige him yet but I'd kinda like to know what I'm up against.

Him: 2003 Mustang GT 4.6 Mod, M5
Known mods- Flomaster Axle backs, handheld tuner, and some kind of fuel rail mod, drag radials.

vs.

Me: 1996 Camaro Z28 5.7, A4
Mods- Flowmaster Cat back, new airbox, tb airfoil, 2.73 gears and street radials. Est HP ~305, RWHP ~265

I ran a 9.45 1/8 on an absolutely terrible night at the track (90* and 60+% humidity).

I realize you guys are Ford die hards but help a fellow car guy out and let me know what you know aobut how fast one of the mootangs'll be. Thanks.

 

[the98stang]

Ok recently my buddy back home has called wanting to race, I havn't been back to oblige him yet but I'd kinda like to know what I'm up against.

Him: 2003 Mustang GT 4.6 Mod, M5
Known mods- Flomaster Axle backs, handheld tuner, and some kind of fuel rail mod, drag radials.

vs.

Me: 1996 Camaro Z28 5.7, A4
Mods- Flowmaster Cat back, new airbox, tb airfoil, 2.73 gears and street radials. Est HP ~305, RWHP ~265

I ran a 9.45 1/8 on an absolutely terrible night at the track (90* and 60+% humidity).

I realize you guys are Ford die hards but help a fellow car guy out and let me know what you know aobut how fast one of the mootangs'll be. Thanks.

That stang has around 240 WHP...but with DR's you'd better watch out.

I thought LT1's had like 285HP to the crank? That would be like 240WHP assuming you had a manuel tranny. If that's true, how can you gain 25WHP from 2 mufflers and TB . Nonetheless...the race will be close. If he's a good driver I think he'll win, considering he has DR's.

 

[myponyrocks]

with the known mods, that Stangs only putting down 230-240 at the rear. I don't know what a fuel rail mod is or why it would be needed with only flows.

As said above the DRs will make it pretty close between the two of you.

He should be ahead of you assuming you both cut the light the same, but you should start to reel him in towards the end (In a 1/4, I have no clue where things will stand in an 1/8th... but I'm leaning towards the car with DRs winning on the shorter distance)

 

[Cory281]

Well a stock LT1 Camaro against a stock 99-04 Mustang GT is a drivers race. I bet with equal drivers it will be really close, I think the Mustang will win because of the dr's though.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Gonna be close, good luck

Let us know how it turns out...

 

[04GTMustang]

yea it will be very very close i use to race a friend of mine with the same year camaro as you and he had the same exact mods and i actually had the same mods as ur friend and i won by a car length in the 1/8th but it all depends on the launch. I just got a better launch and stayed that distance the whole way.

 

[alphawolf47]

Thanks for the insight guys. As for what I think I'm making I based it off of the Cat back making 14 and the intake mods making 6, which is realistic based on what I've seen from others. You guys just don't know what it's like to come stock with a 2.5" single exhaust with a crossflow dual exit muffler so when we do an exhaust it helps us quite a bit. I also used a 250 baseline number that I got from a guy who dynoed his LT1 Firebird strait out of the box and put that down, so maybe more, maybe less.

Oh yeah I remeber now, he acually doesn't have DR's, he has BF Goodrich Scorcher T/A's remember those crazy tires with the color stripe, this is them but his are black.

 

[hotmustang331]

I think your going to loose if he can drive well. Your A4 will zap alot of power.

It wont be ownage IMO, but I think he will pull you ever so slowly.

 

[ADRENLN]

it is going to be a close one! i also think he might edge you out with the tires.

 

[98gtblue]

My best friend has a 95 z28 A4 with edelbrock cat back, springs/shocks,filter and a jet chip. I have a 98 gt 5spd with mods below and when I was NPI it was close with me ahead by a fender. I dynoed 225rwhp. So I think its safe to say he made 235-240. (Now I'm making 270 rwhp with the PI motor.) I haven't raced him with my new motor but my car seems faster than the mach 1. My GF has a stock 03 mach 1 auto and she raced him too, beat him by at least 2 cars. An auto mach 1 puts down 250-260rwhp. I don't know if this info helps but I would say your best chance is from a roll. Also in the 1/8 I ran a 9.3 with a passenger and before the motor swap. The camaro ran a 9.4 with a passenger.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

My GF has a stock 03 mach 1 auto and she raced him too, beat him by at least 2 cars.

Yer woman is awesome

 

[the98stang]

Yer woman is awesome

women with fast cars =

 

[steveb24]

lt1's make 275 to the crank.. i think the stang will win if he can drive. on a side note.. are 2.73 gears in the camaro the stock gears for your year.. im jw why you have it listed?

 

[Mustang5L5]

I ran a 9.45 1/8 on an absolutely terrible night at the track (90* and 60+% humidity)..

In my bone stock 2003 GT i ran a 9.2 1/8 mile on a pretty hot night. (14.1 1/4mile time


I've raced some LT1's before. I've beaten a couple and lost to others.

 

[Mike97gt]

This should be a really close race.

the A4 F-bodys are GREAT at the track, so if the mustang driver sucks you have a huge advantage there.. but your 2.73's are going to hurt you.

One thing that will help him out a lot is the drag radials.

BTW many on here will probally overlook the fact that the LT-1 cars were 1-3 MPH faster in the 1/4 stock my 94 Z28 M6 traped int he 102-103 range stock, my 01 gt M5 traped in the 99-100 range.

 

[CanadaStang]

Having owned a few LT1 Camaro's [the last one was set up for 1/4 mile only] I have to agree with the others and say it will be a drivers race. When my old 94' auto was stock it dynoed 241rwhp but I've seen as high as 255 with a std tranny, which should give you the HP advantage but your car is also heavier than the Stang so it pretty much evens things out. Just for the record, the auto trannys in the Camaro/TA are very good and don't have much drive train loss like the auto Stangs do, resulting in near identical 1/4 mile times for the auto and the std but with the 6spd having a slightly higher trap speed.

 

[ToplessStang]

This is me racing my friends AUTO 96 Camaro Z28. He's pretty much stock though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIB2gngin5c

 

[COramprat]

I beat a pretty much stock LT1 several times...but he beat me several times too. Driver's race. This was before my cam and intake swap. His 1/4 times were better but the 2.6 sixties compared to my 2.1's got him at the end.

 

[alphawolf47]

My year ('96) Chevy went to a dual cat setup and OBDII and freed up 10 more to make 285 to the crank. I mention my 2.73's since they are kinda tall and may hurt me. And he doesn't have DR's I remembered that he called them DR's but the just kinda look like em because of the treat pattern. Also say I was to challenge him at speed, say on a lonely 4 lane stretch...what would you say would happen there?

 

[COramprat]

Also say I was to challenge him at speed, say on a lonely 4 lane stretch...what would you say would happen there?

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