102 trap w/ only exhaust. Magnaflow exhaust??

01Black_46 · Feb 29, 2004

This is my first post as well as my first time at the track. I only have the Magnaflow O/R X and the packs. I ran four times and got a best of 102.24 MPH trap speed with only exhaust...... Heres my data sheet (my 102 run I cannot find the sheet, but heres a similar one at 101.6X mph

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As you can see-I am not a very good driver (2.3 60'...) but I still pulled off a 13.92 on everything stock down to the filter. Maybe magnaflow really does gain a significant amount more then others exhaust??? I had 4 runs with two low 14's and two 13.9X's-all of them in 101 and 102MPH (all runs spinning 1st gear pretty bad) All with 2.3 60'. Anyone have any suggestions on what next to get in the mid 13's?? Traction was a major issue. On a 01 GT with street tires btw

Post any comments or suggestions below. Is this uncommon to run 102 with no traction and crappy 60' with just exhaust? Thanks

daver01 · Feb 29, 2004

impressive #'s. btw, what was in the other lane?

01Black_46 · Feb 29, 2004

SRT-4.... Was pretty embarassed to get beaten by the only fast ricer there. He sure could drive considering the traction problems they have...

just some guy · Mar 1, 2004

01Black_46 said:
SRT-4.... Was pretty embarassed to get beaten by the only fast ricer there. He sure could drive considering the traction problems they have...

he didnt have a traction problem.

daver01 · Mar 1, 2004

jesus, that is depressing. wish i hadn't asked.

01Black_46 · Mar 1, 2004

just some guy said:
he didnt have a traction problem.

No not at all. Most people I know can't hook them up to save their life though.. Front wheel drive

01Black_46 · Mar 1, 2004

Actually. It was not the neon on that run.. I think the srt-4 was my 102.24 run. Pretty sure that one was where I got whooped by an 03...... Cobra. Neon ran a 12.9 with small shot of nitrous if I can remember right. So is 102 high for just exhaust?

daver01 · Mar 1, 2004

that makes more sense & makes me feel much better.

01Black_46 · Mar 1, 2004

01Black_46 said:
. So is 102 high for just exhaust?

daver01 · Mar 1, 2004

higher than some i've seen with more than just exhaust.

RacerGT · Mar 1, 2004

You have a high trap because you spun. Get some tires and your ETs will drop significantly and so will your MPH by a few.

01Black_46 · Mar 1, 2004

RacerGT said:
You have a high trap because you spun. Get some tires and your ETs will drop significantly and so will your MPH by a few.

Thats interesting. I thought if you got there faster-you generally run faster. My least spin run yielded the fastest trap and et. Anyways, I interested in ET's-and there is a lot of room for improvement. Any more suggestions/comments?

just some guy · Mar 1, 2004

01Black_46 said:
Thats interesting. I thought if you got there faster-you generally run faster. My least spin run yielded the fastest trap and et. Anyways, I interested in ET's-and there is a lot of room for improvement. Any more suggestions/comments?

the statement of better 60' and overall time lower mph is correct.

there is a trade-off point between e.t. and mph, lets say a decent spin run would net you your highest ever 103.5 mph. with this speed your car has enough power to run a 13.1 lets say. well, the closer you get to that 13.1 your car loses mph because it is accelerating in less amount of time, in other words you are minimizing the time in which you can speed up, although you have used to same amount of power to go 13.1 at 102 as you did when you ran lets say 13.6 at 103.5.
when you are going faster and getting superior traction like 1.7 60's you are making the most of your available power.
get me?
think about it like this, you apply X amount of power durning a shorter amount of time, MPH is judged by power, so that is why it is lower. whereas if you applied X amount of power during a longer amount of time, you will trap higher.

01Black_46 · Mar 1, 2004

just some guy said:
the statement of better 60' and overall time lower mph is correct.

there is a trade-off point between e.t. and mph, lets say a decent spin run would net you your highest ever 103.5 mph. with this speed your car has enough power to run a 13.1 lets say. well, the closer you get to that 13.1 your car loses mph because it is accelerating in less amount of time, in other words you are minimizing the time in which you can speed up, although you have used to same amount of power to go 13.1 at 102 as you did when you ran lets say 13.6 at 103.5.
when you are going faster and getting superior traction like 1.7 60's you are making the most of your available power.
get me?
think about it like this, you apply X amount of power durning a shorter amount of time, MPH is judged by power, so that is why it is lower. whereas if you applied X amount of power during a longer amount of time, you will trap higher.

Makes sense. I saw you have a 13.15 at 103.5-What mods were you running-and you were using slicks?-I have a T/A and a dragon plenum incoming. Hoping for low 13's with slicks. I'll go back in 2 weeks and try again. Once I break 12's N/A-I'll prob look into forced induction/nitrous (too expensive to get faster N/A once running 12's)

JonJon · Mar 1, 2004

102 is believable

i trapped 100-101 with C&L maf, 99 MPH all stock

i gained 2 MPH from my x pipe after I lost 2 mph from my rims.

gtrackd02 · Mar 1, 2004

I'v only clocked over a hundred a few times.... my best run was a 13.93@99.5
with a 2.0somthing 60foot and i have alot more than just a catback...
of course at the track i run at i spin first second and it kicks out a little in third too.....

But those numbers seem pretty good to me....oh and i also got beat by an srt-4 but he only ran a 13.2......lol

StngStr · Mar 1, 2004

just some guy said:
the statement of better 60' and overall time lower mph is correct.

there is a trade-off point between e.t. and mph, lets say a decent spin run would net you your highest ever 103.5 mph. with this speed your car has enough power to run a 13.1 lets say. well, the closer you get to that 13.1 your car loses mph because it is accelerating in less amount of time, in other words you are minimizing the time in which you can speed up, although you have used to same amount of power to go 13.1 at 102 as you did when you ran lets say 13.6 at 103.5.
when you are going faster and getting superior traction like 1.7 60's you are making the most of your available power.
get me?
think about it like this, you apply X amount of power durning a shorter amount of time, MPH is judged by power, so that is why it is lower. whereas if you applied X amount of power during a longer amount of time, you will trap higher.

So....you saying that since I am trapping 103mph that my car is capable of low 13's with a lower (1.7) 60 ft? Where's Jackie Chan?....I need to borrow his tires on Wednesday........

just some guy · Mar 1, 2004

StngStr said:
So....you saying that since I am trapping 103mph that my car is capable of low 13's with a lower (1.7) 60 ft? Where's Jackie Chan?....I need to borrow his tires on Wednesday........

yes

just some guy · Mar 1, 2004

01Black_46 said:
Makes sense. I saw you have a 13.15 at 103.5-What mods were you running-and you were using slicks?-I have a T/A and a dragon plenum incoming. Hoping for low 13's with slicks. I'll go back in 2 weeks and try again. Once I break 12's N/A-I'll prob look into forced induction/nitrous (too expensive to get faster N/A once running 12's)

i was running 275/40/17 nitto drag radials, cai,t/a,cnl plenum,o/r x, catback, 4.10s and a shifter.

i also backed it up with a 13.168 at 103.7 2 days later

those are the best runs from those 2 days, then right after that, i broke my drivers side axle.

StngStr · Mar 1, 2004

where've you been? Haven't seen you at the track lately. I'll be out of town for a week starting wednesday, but I'll be back at OSW on 3/10/03. Maybe I'll see if I can use John's tires and see what I can do with some traction.

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