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40th GT

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So that was my best time out of the 10 runs I did on my first visit to the track today. Does this look normal? My timeslip is in the car but the 60 ft was a 2.3x and I trapped at 97.xx mph.
There was a LS2 GTO that ran a 14.51, a 07 Roush 427 R did low 14s, and a GT500 ran a 13.9.

I guess the 88 degree weather didn't help. But I had a blast out there and now I know what it means to :Track:

And oh BTW, my car weighed in at 3675 lbs with me (150 lbs) in it. That's w/ half tank of gas, the Shaker sub, and no spare tire.
 
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oh9mustang

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Something wrong somewere.
I have a bone stock 09 GT Auto and it runs 13.7 with my daughter driving.

Were you having traction problems? Shifting problems?

If you would like to go faster, the first thing is some gears, then a tune, and a K&N. But you should be in the 13s allready.
 

gmantheman

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Your 60' times are hurting you. Just need to practice your launching more. Sticky tires such as drag radials, lower and upper control arms would a help. The DA also plays a factor. A 14.6 with a DA of around 3200' is about 14.1 at sea level.
 

DarkFireGT

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Calculating density altitude, you were actually racing at the equivalent of around 6000 feet, because of your actual altitude, temp, humidity, and barometric pressure.

That actually equates to a corrected time of
13.525 @ 104.743 MPH

Sounds much better, huh?
 
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COBESGT

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Something to be said about your 60ft times. I've always heard that every 10th you can knock out of your 60ft times = 2/10ths on your final time. So consider this:

2.3 down to 2.0 = 3/10ths x 2 = 14.6 down to 14.0
2.3 down to 1.8 = 5/10ths x 2 = 14.6 down to 13.6

Then if you consider your times at your area (3192ft) you could possibly get that down to the lower 13 seconds, right in the range where these stock mustangs with a good driver run.
 

40th GT

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DarkFireGT said:
Calculating density altitude, you were actually racing at the equivalent of around 6000 feet, because of your actual altitude, temp, humidity, and barometric pressure.

That actually equates to a corrected time of
13.525 @ 104.743 MPH

Sounds much better, huh?
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As much as I'd like to think that's my corrected time, the DA in the thread title is already "DA corrected."
The elevation was at 1002 feet in 88 degree weather, and according to the calculator that's just over 3000 ft corrected.
Or am I missing something? I'm the guy that just ran 2.3 60ft times so what do I know lol.
 

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gmantheman said:
The DA also plays a factor. A 14.6 with a DA of around 3200' is about 14.1 at sea level.
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What's the formula for this conversion?
I'm not doubting you or anything I'd just like to know for future reference.
 

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oh9mustang said:
Something wrong somewere.
I have a bone stock 09 GT Auto and it runs 13.7 with my daughter driving.

Were you having traction problems? Shifting problems?

If you would like to go faster, the first thing is some gears, then a tune, and a K&N. But you should be in the 13s allready.
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I did have trouble getting into 2nd and spun badly off the line on my first runs and resulted in a more embarrassing 15.3 second timeslips.
The 14.6 is with clean shifts and with some traction issues. I couldn't launch higher than 2500 because I'd break loose.
I think I'd better work on my driving before I start modding though. But thanks for your input.
 

DarkFireGT

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40th GT said:
As much as I'd like to think that's my corrected time, the DA in the thread title is already "DA corrected."
The elevation was at 1002 feet in 88 degree weather, and according to the calculator that's just over 3000 ft corrected.
Or am I missing something? I'm the guy that just ran 2.3 60ft times so what do I know lol.
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Oh, gotcha. Didn't see that. I was wondering how you were 3000+ feet in GA LOL.

Then yeah, that's a bad time. But even the MPH is low. What are your mods?
 

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Some wheelspin is good. My old 190 hp 2000 V6 mustang could run a 15.3, so something is strange if 14.6 is your corrected time.
 

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DarkFireGT said:
Oh, gotcha. Didn't see that. I was wondering how you were 3000+ feet in GA LOL.

Then yeah, that's a bad time. But even the MPH is low. What are your mods?
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I'm all stock, unless you count a K&N filter.
 

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stangdude2000 said:
Some wheelspin is good. My old 190 hp 2000 V6 mustang could run a 15.3, so something is strange if 14.6 is your corrected time.
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No sir the 14.6 is what the timeslip says. I don't know what the corrected time is.
 

Mike97gt

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40th GT said:
As much as I'd like to think that's my corrected time, the DA in the thread title is already "DA corrected."
The elevation was at 1002 feet in 88 degree weather, and according to the calculator that's just over 3000 ft corrected.
Or am I missing something? I'm the guy that just ran 2.3 60ft times so what do I know lol.
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When you do a DA you need track elevation, temp, humidity and baro pressure


but with some sticky tires in better air you will run easy mid 13's
 
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Don't feel to bad the first time i went to the track I ran a 16.2. I just spun off the line. But eventually I was able to get 13.8. Just keep playing with launch speed.
 

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Stryfe8822 said:
Don't feel to bad the first time i went to the track I ran a 16.2. I just spun off the line. But eventually I was able to get 13.8. Just keep playing with launch speed.
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What RPM were you launching at to get that 13.8? Did you lower the tire pressure at all?
 
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Stryfe8822

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This is what I did I lowered the tire pressure to about 25 psi and launched the car a little under 3000 rpms. You are going to play with the clutch a little because you might just sit there and spin.

Here is a link to a similar topic in this forum I got a lot of know how from there http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/792228-tips-running-track.html
 

Mike97gt

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Stryfe8822 said:
Don't feel to bad the first time i went to the track I ran a 16.2. I just spun off the line. But eventually I was able to get 13.8. Just keep playing with launch speed.
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16.2

WOW i thought my first run with my stock 01 gt was bad ( 14.6)

But I see you learned from it and got down to a 13.8
 

DarkFireGT

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That is high, but then again, our '05 had 4.10's and the best my wife got out of it was 13.8. Usually 14's. (I ran 13.0 in it).
 
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Yeah what can I say too many video games. I am just used to flooring it and taking off, too bad it does not work that way in reality. I know this is a little off topic but I am thinking about getting 3:73's, a CAI with a tune, and a short throw shifter. What times do you think I will get?
 

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DarkFireGT said:
Calculating density altitude, you were actually racing at the equivalent of around 6000 feet, because of your actual altitude, temp, humidity, and barometric pressure.

That actually equates to a corrected time of
13.525 @ 104.743 MPH

Sounds much better, huh?
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Not wanting to start a war here but 13.5 @104.7 in the 1/4 for a stock mustang, I would like to see it. Maybe down hill.
 
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