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1993 Premium Sound Amp Wiring

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93CalypsoConvert

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In the process of replacing my carpet and decided to take a closer look at my radio stuff. The only thing I've done is connect the radio when I first bought the car. Nothing else.

I would like to make my factory amp to work. I am aware that this system won't blow me away, but I'd like to have the factory equipment working. I just need some help figuring out how to connect it.

Here is the all the stuff that connects to radio. I've labeled what I think everything does:

Nothing was connected except those two I labeled as originally connected.


Here is the amp wires connected to the original speaker wire:



Here is the front and back of my radio:



Stuff going to the amp:


Finally, here is the inside of the amp. I took it apart to make sure there was no signs of failure:

Not a whole lot to it, huh?

Again my goal here is to make the amp work with the original speakers and head unit.
 

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I think all your answers are covered in @Mustang5L5 post.

1993 Premium sound stereo into 87-92 Mustang : Install thread

No real questions here, just a thread to document what i've learned in this little project of mine. There is very little info on the net regarding this, i mostly had to peice info together that now seems very straightforward now from sources on the internet. I chose to install a 1993 OEM CD...
www.stangnet.com

One thing that sticks out to me is it looks like your radio is a 87-92 but you amp and wiring is 93? Does the radio have a plug for the blue amp cable? I could be wrong. Either way post above will help you get it sorted out.
 
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Yeah, that’s a non-premium radio. It’s not designed for the amp.

All the info you need is in the above thread. Let me know if you have any questions.


I even made a video

View: https://youtu.be/dL-4RLtiALE
 

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Ah ok. So It looks like I'm fully equipped other than the premium radio. Are there any aftermarket radios that are compatible with this system? Is it even worth it at that point? I don't particularly want to spend over $100 on a 30 year old radio that may or may not work.
 
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I sure would wire around it if you have no radio
You can do much better for cheaper these days
Kenwood marine deck
Fosgate amp
 

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93CalypsoConvert said:
Ah ok. So It looks like I'm fully equipped other than the premium radio. Are there any aftermarket radios that are compatible with this system? Is it even worth it at that point? I don't particularly want to spend over $100 on a 30 year old radio that may or may not work.
Click to expand...

Nope. If you want the factory style radio, it is what it is.

Otherwise you can fit a nice DD touchscreen in it these days
 

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Ok so I found this one here.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2555751020...d=link&campid=5335821607&toolid=20001&mkevt=1

This is the same part number as one at my local junkyard. Would this work with my setup? It comes out of a 2000 mustang. I would like to keep it a single din since I am using the space below it as a gauge cluster. Only $50.
 
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It would work but the issue is mounting. That one has rounded edges and no mounting plate for the cubby under the radio. It wouldn’t fit in perfectly.

You can see on these two the edges are square and the cubby is directly bolted to the bottom
Of the radio.

Now you can get parts to do this. That cubby plate can be removed from any 87-93 fox radio and installed on that radio, but you still have to deal with the round edges vs square

 

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Ok this shouldn't be an issue for me. I have a small gauge cluster mounted where the cubby used to me located:


I didn't have a better picture of the gauges, but you can see they are under the radio.
 

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You’ll prob be able to fab something up.
 

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I read somewhere that if the SN95 radio did not have the factory slave CD option, then it will not work with the ‘93 premium amp. No evidence that it’s true. Obviously Mustang5L5 knows this stuff better than anyone.
 

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We'll see what happens with this one. I'll keep y'all updated
 
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Ok so I went and got the radio from the salvage yard. They wouldn't let me pull it, one of their guys had to. In the process of removal, he managed to completely shatter the front face of it... Now it looks awful. He just gave it to me for free at that point. Kinda POed about it, even though it was free.

Anyways, I hooked it up just to see if it would work. It does but its very quiet. The think the reason is I do not have a 6-pin jumper plug. This is referenced in the forum from above. Response #6

Does anyone know which pins this actually jumps? I messed around with jumping them with a pair of pliers and only managed to get the driver's side speakers to work normally. I might just use this one until I can find one that isn't broken...
 
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The radio will be very quiet without this.

Part number F2DF-14A464-AA

Ford Radio Parts - Audio Jumper Plug 1992 - 2000 PAC CDR ESC LP | eBay

DIN Size Radio - PAC 19B165 / CDR 18C815 / ESC LP 19B132. Reason for jumper was to complete low level audio circuit if you did not have an optional separate single disc player option Taurus or Mustang, or a 10 disc / 6 Disc player options.
www.ebay.com

You can kinda see where you need to short the pins, or just get that.


How bad is the face mashed? I might have a spare faceplate but don’t quote me on that, I ebayed a lot of parts and that might have gone out the door. I’d have to look
 
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Its pretty bad. I'm going to try to swap the faces and see if I can just cover up the tape player. I haven't seen a cassette in years lol.
 

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OEM 93-97 FORD Thunderbird, Mercury Cougar AMFM Stereo Cassette Faceplate Bezel | eBay

Bezel only. Am/Fm stereo Cassette Radios. Display is BLUE color, and has built in WITHOUT CLOCK BUTTON .
www.ebay.com


You can just swap the clock and 6th preset button




Here’s another with the correct preset

OEM 93-97 FORD Thunderbird, Mercury Cougar AMFM Stereo Cassette Faceplate Bezel | eBay

Bezel only. Am/Fm stereo Cassette Radios. Display is BLUE color, and has built in WITH CLOCK BUTTON .
www.ebay.com
 

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Unfortunately those two don't have the holes for the cassette buttons. I'm in the process of swapping the faces. It will be a sleeper radio I suppose.

I swapped the front metal structure from my old one to this new one. Has four torx on one side and two rivets on the other. Drilled the rivets and replaced with some short self-tapping screws. I also bent all the cassette player tabs and buttons out of the way so my old face will actually fit. I bent the rest of the case straight again. Test fit in my dash and seems to do just fine.



I also figured out which pins needed to be jumped, so I just bent them together and soldered them:



The only buttons that won't work after switching the faces are the Scan, AMS, and Dolby button. I doubt I'll be using any of those... What does the Dolby button do anyways?
 

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Ah I didn’t look too closely at the button layout.


Dolby is used for noise reduction. Specifically it removes the “hiss” you hear when you listen to cassettes. It changes the sound somewhat, so that’s why it’s a selectable button.
 

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Right those premium sound ones with the little square cable need the amp
I wired around mine in my 94 van when I put 3 Fosgates in it
You should be able to find one easy? All car lines had them I believe
Square plug came around in or about 1995
I have a few radios kicking around
Upload pic of the miffed front screen
We used to have to remove those screens to replace the illumination bulb behind there
They are hard wired in with a ribbon cable
Not sure if they can be replaced
 

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Ok the Frankenstein radio works! It looks identical to the old one and sounds slightly better lol. Didn't spend a dime in the end and now I have premium sound with working amp.
 
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