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2000 4.6l cobra crate engine swap into 65/66 mustangs?

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GT2K

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tjm73 said:
Yes there was, it was the 2002 Cobra that never exisited.
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Could you provide a link to one somewhere? They were not done on a production level... few test mules, but they had the motors ready. 2001 was the return and then it was another gap to 2003.

And why not carb the modular and throw in a disti too and make it even easier?

 
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dood, how did they have 2000 Cobra-R's if there was no 2000 cobra..
 

allcarfan

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Dood....

The R was the ONLY cobra in 2000

Dood
 
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therefore i win there was a cobra in 2000
 
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Doods

stock rods and pistons suck on the 4.6 other than on the 03-up cobras

The crank's are the same "forged"
 
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fine, i loose dood
but yea, the 03/04 cobras have some very nice engines if i had the money to put one in my car better belive i wouldn't even hesitate.
 
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tjm73

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rebel65 said:
yea..but that's an 01 dood, those were not the ones with the forged components in the engines, the 03/04 are.
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Yes and no. All Cobra's got fordged cranks. When they put the superchargers on them in 2003, they got good rods, forged pistons and iron blocks in addition to the forged crank.
 
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tjm73

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rebel65 said:
...but yea, the 03/04 cobras have some very nice engines if i had the money to put one in my car better belive i wouldn't even hesitate.
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I'm with you on that one for sure. And as long as we're throwing around money we don't have...let's toss an updated KB blower on it too! Hello 600 rwhp on pump gas with stock block/heads/cams. Where have you been all my life?
 
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mmmm blowzilla..mmmmm....uhm what am i going to have the money to do to my car by winter...t5 and heads..maybe wheels ( since mustang depot is a bitch and has the wrong backspacing on the 16x8's pfft bitches. ) im just a shy bit short of a 03 cobra engine and a blowzilla.. heh.
 

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someone posted before that you can get a stroked 5.0 for the price of 4,000...how is that even possible when the regular ford racing create engine is $3,100. The ford racing engine comes with the accessories on the engine. is there a stroked 5.0 with all the accessories for near $4000?
Mike
(p.s is a stroked 5.0 a 347?)
 

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BullittStangV8 said:
someone posted before that you can get a stroked 5.0 for the price of 4,000...how is that even possible when the regular ford racing create engine is $3,100. The ford racing engine comes with the accessories on the engine. is there a stroked 5.0 with all the accessories for near $4000?
Mike
(p.s is a stroked 5.0 a 347?)
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You can get stroker short blocks for under $2k. Turn-key dyno'd motors are in the $5k-$6k range. Stroked 5.0s come in many different displacements but the most common are 331 and 347.

Engine Pricing
http://www.f-p-s.com/engines/index.html
http://www.coasthigh.com/Assemblies/Ford/ford_347.htm?Submit33=347ci
http://www.dssracing.com/
 

SadbutTrue

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Cobras only cam eout in 1999, 2001, and 2003-4. There are no 2000, or 2002 Cobras. There is a 2000 Cobra R. And they did sell 2000 Cobra crate motors.

There, that sets you straight. Carry on.
 

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66P51GT said:
You can get stroker short blocks for under $2k. ...
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You're gonna be a little "short" with just the "block"
 

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GT2K said:
You're gonna be a little "short" with just the "block"
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True, but if you already have a good set of heads and intake, there is no reason for a long block.
 

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66P51GT said:
True, but if you already have a good set of heads and intake, there is no reason for a long block.
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Yeah, so you probably would not be looking at the 4.6 then right?
 

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Here's the story my research turned up regarding the "2000" Cobra crate engines when I made the purchase:

After the overrated horsepower debacle with the '99 Cobras, SVT reworked a few components to make the engine live up to the 315 hp/315 tq (or thereabout) claims. Although the '00 Cobra was shelved there was still an application for the engine: the Panoz Esperante. All of the '00 setups are leftovers from that production run, and that's why the kits are so very complete. they are everything you need (basically) to turn a Panoz Esperante roller into a running, driving car, complete with anti-theft, keyless, etc.

My original plan was to use high-end EFI stroker Windsors (347 or ?). By the time I priced everything out all the way down to the last detail, the Cobra engine package was too good a deal to pass up. Plus, I will admit that the "wow" factor is important for the market I'm courting. The install wasn't that bad as long as you're not afraid to get a little creative with the metalwork.

 
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In 2000, the Cobra R was the only cobra produced for America. There were, however, 200 Cobras made and all shipped to Austrailia. Don't ask why Ford didn't keep them here, they just didn't.
 

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how doest the front suspension work without the shocktowers? also, what did you do about the electronics? meaning ignition, guages, ect?
Mike
 

reenmachine

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The Mustang II-type front suspension is an entirely different type that is much more compact and doesn't require the shock towers. Instead of the spring/damper combo going between the upper control arm and the shock tower, it goes between the lower control arm and a perch that is at roughly the same level as the new upper control arm.

The electronics are a combination of things. The factory harness & computer for the 4.6L (with modifications) runs the engine, and the rest is a combination of stock '67 harness and custom.
 
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65mistress

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Ok, Silly question, how do you run the ignition? I'm unfortunately completely clueless about the new modular engines.
 
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