• Mustang Forums
  • 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk-
  • 2005 - 2009 Specific Tech

2005 gt failsafe engine mode

  • Thread starter Thread starter Slowpony1545
  • Start date Start date Jul 7, 2018
  • Tags Tags
    failsafe
S

Slowpony1545

New Member
Jul 7, 2018
5
0
1
28
Chilhowie
Jul 7, 2018
#1
  • Jul 7, 2018
  • #1
Ive only had this mustang for about 3 months on the road. (A long rundown just so any possible reasons can be addressed) this car has been hit in the front end, it came from a auction only damage was passenger fender. After i fixed it and got on the road its ran only in the middle on the temp. Gauge (from what ive read it is only triggered on coolant issues correct me if i made a mistake) but when it triggers the failsafe mode completely at random it just goes into idle, no limp mode, nothing, i turn it off wait a couple minutes it fires up runs like a chamo. Is it a sensor? Do yall think the cras may have jarred something? Thank you for your time
 

wmburns

SN Certified Technician
Aug 14, 2009
5,892
514
204
Houston Texas
Jul 7, 2018
#2
  • Jul 7, 2018
  • #2
I'm going to assume this is a 3 valve single over head cam (SOHC) 4.6 with a "drive by wire" throttle. This could be:
  • The throttle body itself
  • The throttle position sensor (the right foot pedal position sensor).
If looking for an educated guess the problem is in the throttle body. But it would help to have some more information to go on such as a DTC code. There are two position sensors inside the TB. The PCM goes into to limp in mode when the sensors disagree.

Disclaimer. I don't own a 2005+ Mustang. But I do work on a 2005 F150 with the 3V SOHC 5.4 drive by wire. So I do have some understanding of the system.

For cars with the advanced systems such as "drive by wire", IMO it's very hard to correctly trouble shoot without access to an ODB2 scanner. Something that can access, monitor, and graph operational PID's. An ODB2 scanner can also make short work of question like, "what is the sensor's value?". Graphing makes it possible to compare the values over time. Important when dealing with "soft" faults.

Here's some information on an affordable Windows based unit.

ForScan ODB2 scanner w ELM327 USB
https://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/resources/forscan-odb2-scanner-w-elm327-usb.57/

With this software it's very easy to graph the two throttle position sensor values and see if they diverge. Of course the problem could be obvious from the DTC code.

Here's some information that might help you to understand the problem. The video is by a very good Ford tech FordTechMakuloco

Ford Electronic Throttle Body Failures
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDpUo3UPmto

Finally this thread was posted in the 1996-2004 model year section. There maybe people in the 2005+ MY section of the forums better able to help.
 
Reactions: Slowpony1545

wmburns

SN Certified Technician
Aug 14, 2009
5,892
514
204
Houston Texas
Jul 17, 2018
#3
  • Jul 17, 2018
  • #3
New member. Signed up. Post. Not heard from again.

Without any follow up it's hard to know if this thread is on point or not. Therefore it's not as useful to other people reading the forums that may have a similar issue.

Sigh....
 
Reactions: Neuron
S

Slowpony1545

New Member
Jul 7, 2018
5
0
1
28
Chilhowie
Jul 25, 2018
#4
  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #4
Hi yes, sorry bout a late reply was out of town for work some people around home say they've had the same issue out of a tps sensor so ive got that on the way i will try my best to respond quicker next time, as far as code she aint throwing nothing ‍ so ill start with tps


Thank you for the help and again apologies for no reply
 
S

Slowpony1545

New Member
Jul 7, 2018
5
0
1
28
Chilhowie
Jul 25, 2018
#5
  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #5
Also i did realize a bit to late that i posted in the wrong section go me i guess lol
 

COramprat

...I can take it. I think.
20+ Year Stangneter
Mar 2, 2003
8,474
1,463
223
Sea of Tranquility
Jul 25, 2018
#6
  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #6
Moved to proper section
 
Reactions: Slowpony1545
S

Slowpony1545

New Member
Jul 7, 2018
5
0
1
28
Chilhowie
Jul 25, 2018
#7
  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #7
COramprat said:
Moved to proper section
Click to expand...
Much appreciated
 
S

Slowpony1545

New Member
Jul 7, 2018
5
0
1
28
Chilhowie
Jul 27, 2018
#8
  • Jul 27, 2018
  • #8
New tps seemed to have done the trick thanks for all the help and information
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

L
2005 gt mustang overheating sensor/failsafe mode
  • lyndenbouw
  • Mar 30, 2025
  • 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
2
Views
255
2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk- Apr 12, 2025
Noobz347
2005 GT Failsafe Mode
  • DukeOfValencia
  • Dec 29, 2021
  • 2005 - 2009 Specific Tech
Replies
1
Views
1K
2005 - 2009 Specific Tech Dec 30, 2021
EmmJay
E
J
HELP 2005 Mustang Gt PCM, ENGINE FAILSAFE MODE
  • Jacob Hagerman
  • Apr 17, 2019
  • 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
0
Views
2K
2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk- Apr 17, 2019
Jacob Hagerman
J
V
2005 Mustang Gt- Failsafe Engine Mode (paxton supercharger)
  • VaughanS197
  • Nov 13, 2018
  • 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
3
Views
2K
2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk- Nov 14, 2018
Noobz347
V
A 20 year old car, with many faults!
  • Virus101
  • May 4, 2020
  • SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech
Replies
7
Views
2K
SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech May 9, 2020
Cobra262
C
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk-
  • 2005 - 2009 Specific Tech
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?