Toney C said:Just doesn't seem right though without the Camaro and Trans AM in the mix. Lutz is a Putz for letting those die off.
nomuffler said:I've seen alot of chrysler products go bad in the automatic transmission. Especialy FWD trannies. I certainly don't judge Chrysler's preformance now (under Daimler/Benz) by their preformance in the eighties (under Mr. Iacoca, and funded by the USA). To do so would be deeply flawed. I mean it's the difference between starving to death and the harvest season.
Toney C said:No S**T, me too. They can say what they want about Dodge. Dodge is a good company and the new 2006 charger would look tough as hell if you ask me. I love the 2005 Stang GT but this charger (if produced) would sure as hell give me a tough decision to make.
I owned a dakota for awhile and I loved it. Dodge has the least customer complaints of any of the Domestics.
And what's wrong with Dodges designs? I think their pretty original if you ask me. Not knocking ford or anything but the new Dodges have a tough looking design. JMO.
Toney C
kirkyg said:HAHAHAHAHA dodge the best with least customer complaints?????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Sorry but i've owned 2 dodges rams. Both were brand new when i bought them. Both were nearly lemon'd out with problems. My second truck was the worst. A 2001 dodge ram with a 5.2L v8. The 46RE transmission is about the worst hunk of metal to ever grace an automobile period. About the only people that dont know how horrible dodge transmissions and build qualities are is the loyalists who are too blind to realize they have a total pos or they were in the 15-20% of vehicles that dont have problems. Most manufacturers can say only about 15% of their vehicles have any warranty work claims. But dodge...lol there's is more like 85%.
Dodge's only hope now is to reap the benefits of german engineering and have that ported over to the american automobiles...dodge is no longer an american company so i really could care less about them too. Id love to see a charger but it'll never happen in a reasonable price range. They'll end up making it some high priced 4 door sedan if it ever makes it to production.
kirkyg
Toney C said:I can understand the way you feel about Dodges. If I owned two new lemons I would probably feel the same way. I read that Dodge had the least customer complaints from Consumer reports. Maybe not everybody was reporting their problems?
And I'm sure that Dodge will reap the benefits of German engineering. I hope they make ALL american automobiles better with German engineering. What's wrong with taking a good idea and making your product much better? You have to admit that American automobiles have been crap for a long time. When I say "crap" I mean not as good or reliable as the foriegn automobiles. You say Dodge is no longer an "American Company".
Tell me one that still is ALL AMERICAN. The new mustang got it's fit and finish from German Engineering. It's getting is handling characteristics from a BMW. I would say that's not American. I BET MONEY THAT YOU WOULD STILL BUY ONE THOUGH. But my opinion is, go with what works, learn from it and make an American automobile using proven and good ideas. I wouldn't consider it "not American" I would consider it finding a solution to the problem of foriegn automobiles dominating the American streets. I mean hell, they gotta do something about it don't they? Here in America 50% of people own a foriegn vehicle. In foriegn countries like Japan, only 1% of them own an American automobile. WHY? You answer that for me. It's because American automobiles have been crap. This is the first time in a long time that I have looked into buying an American automobile (2005 Mustang) and it's because of all the ideas they got from the Germans that they have incorpartated into this Mustang to make it a great "American" automobile.
Don't get me wrong here, I very much WANT to buy American. All the other countries buy their brands, so why shouldn't we, right? And if that means taking German or Japanese ideas then so be it. Cause I'll tell you one thing, those Japs build one hell of an Automobile and so so the Germans. Tell me I'm wrong and I'll kiss your a**.
Whatever it is that the foriegn automakers are doing to their vehciles, it's RIGHT. 50% of Americans owning foriegn automobiles proves that. And American automakers should start doing the same thing. JMO.
63_Fairlane said:Actually, most of the design of the BMW 3 series was pioneered in the U.S.
1. Unibody construction. Ford Falcon 1960's
2. MacPherson Struts: Ford Late 1950s. It was used on a small Euro Ford.
The 3 Series is basically a modern interpretation of a 1960's Falcon/Mustang.
kirkyg said:By american i mean where the money goes not necessarily how many parts were designed and assembled within our borders. I support a company that supports america by keeping the auto industry wealth here in the us. Foreign cars makers may provide some jobs which is good but they do not keep the wealth here to boost our economy.
kirkyg
63_Fairlane said:Actually, most of the design of the BMW 3 series was pioneered in the U.S.
1. Unibody construction. Ford Falcon 1960's
2. MacPherson Struts: Ford Late 1950s. It was used on a small Euro Ford.
The 3 Series is basically a modern interpretation of a 1960's Falcon/Mustang.
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