Also...and this is just through the grapevine, Fords dropping in the 5.0 because the mustang is gonna have to be adjusted before 2012 to meet the 2012 safety standards, which will add some more weight. If what I've heard is correct that it currently does not meet the 2012 requirements (but the Camaro and Challenger do).
We'll see.
The GTs are weighing in the 35xx lb range; still lighter than a '03-'04 Cobra, which is good.
I'd agree that with 400 hp, it's not going to tromp a new SS. But, here's the thing; is it 400 "Ford" horsepower, or is it 400 "real" horsepower? I don't wanna bring up cars of yore, but if I'm not mistaken, Ford had issues back in 2000 with the Cobra and it turned out that all of the horses were not in the stable, so to speak (Remember "the Fix?") The same thing happened with the Mazda RX-8. In fact, the RX-8 was so down on advertised horsepower that people were returning them, from what I understand.
And then there's GM. The LT1 was rated at 275-285 hp in the F-Bodies, but was making closer to 300-305 hp at the crank. And then, there was the LS1 that was rated at 305 hp, but was making more along the lines of 345 hp at the crank.
...So, how much power is that 426 hp LS3 really making? Hmmm, I dunno; to motivate a 3900-4000 lb car down the track at 110 mph, I'm gonna guess that it's making around 450 hp.
The LS3s with 6M are dynoing in the 385 Rwhp range, which means your right....although the L99s are hitting around 290-310Rwhp.....THEY ARE GETTING KILLED by Torque managment. Its bad when a Tune gets you 20-30 Rwhp....somethings wrong, There running so rich its off the charts !!!!
Also...and this is just through the grapevine, Fords dropping in the 5.0 because the mustang is gonna have to be adjusted before 2012 to meet the 2012 safety standards, which will add some more weight. If what I've heard is correct that it currently does not meet the 2012 requirements (but the Camaro and Challenger do).
We'll see.
What are the new safety standards? I googled and didn't find anything and I'm not about to dig. And didn't the Mustang score 5 star front crash test rating while the Camaro got 4 stars? I think it'd be the other way around as far as having to make changes to comply with new standards. (Not flaming, just asking, maybe I'm not understanding)
^^Just heresay for now, But I mean you would have to expect a weight gain though, I mean Fords gonna put a beefer Tranny, Engine and a bigger brake Unit also im sure the suspension is going to get beefed up along with upgraded safety equipment to handle the increase and stress...Thats good for a good 200-300 lbs. Dosent mean that the Mustang is gonna suffer. Enginnering is what its all about right ? Albeit its still running low 13s with ease.
Yeah, its all here say....Ive just heard that in 2012 new safety regs come into play. Im no expert and it all could be false. Dunno...........AND YES YOUR MUSTANG RATED 5 STARS lolApparently the reason the Camaro and Challenger came in so porky was because of all the Safty requirements they were going to need in the upcoming years. Again its all heresay, and again.....we only got 4 Stars ....(It was rigged)
^^^ yep....I was just poking fun with Fast 05
i am not so sure it's going to gain 200-300 pounds.. You guys are getting caught up in bigger motor displacement = more weight but what you are overlooking is the 3v modular 4.6 is HEAVY and this motor is going to be all aluminum.. external dimensions of the new motor will probably be similar to a modular
This engine might be LIGHTER than the 3v 4.6
transmission might be a bit heavier if it is the 6 speed and the rest of the car will probably stay the same so you might have the gt weight about the same as now.
Isn't the 4.6L aluminum?
Yes, the heads and block are aluminum. It was in a brochure for my 05 (back in the day) touting that it saves weight, which it does. SS02 is right about the brakes, but I don't see it adding anything significant, as we already got all the suspension upgrades for 2010 so the rest of the car will most likely go unchanged, not including the tranny, who knows what they'll throw in.
Yes, the heads and block are aluminum. It was in a brochure for my 05 (back in the day) touting that it saves weight, which it does. SS02 is right about the brakes, but I don't see it adding anything significant, as we already got all the suspension upgrades for 2010 so the rest of the car will most likely go unchanged, not including the tranny, who knows what they'll throw in.
How strong is the 5spd that's in it now? Will it handle around 435-450 hp?
Everything I've found online about the Tremec 3650 (current GT tranny) states it is rated at 360 LB FT of torque, which IMO, seems conservative. I know there are a lot of GTs out there with blowers on them making a lot more than that. Then again, who knows how well it puts up with the extra abuse depending on your driving habits, how often you race it, etc.
Everything I've found online about the Tremec 3650 (current GT tranny) states it is rated at 360 LB FT of torque, which IMO, seems conservative. I know there are a lot of GTs out there with blowers on them making a lot more than that. Then again, who knows how well it puts up with the extra abuse depending on your driving habits, how often you race it, etc.
I would guess that if you're not constantly launching the car, it'll be ok. I'm not a huge drag-racer, so I'd probably be alright with it. I'm more of a "roll into the throttle" type of guy.
Is this current 5spd the same one from the last generation cars, because I'm pretty sure those transmissions were made from glass. I had two buddies, one with a '99 GT, and one with a '00 Cobra, and raced both of them on the highway. Oddly enough, they both blew their transmissions racing me. The guy with the 99 GT downshifted into 3rd from around 55 mph, and the other guy did the same from around 65 mph. I'm not sure whether the '00 Cobras had 5 spds or 6 spds.
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